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Sovereignty and Self-Responsibility with Tahnee Taylor on Super Woo Radio (EP#159)

In a very authentic, and sovereign exchange on Super Woo radio, Tahnee sits in the guest seat and journeys deep into earthly, Daoist, yogic, and supernatural spaces with George Kavassilas. Tahnee talks openly about the grief and bliss she has experienced in her life and discusses the importance of honesty, courage, self-responsibility, and sovereignty in any healthy relationship, business or personal.

In a very open and sovereign exchange on Super Woo radio, Tahnee sits in the guest seat and journeys deep into earthly, Daoist, yogic, and supernatural spaces with George Kavassilas. This episode is one of a kind, revealing the expanse of Tahnee's depth in all her nuanced layers; intellectual, spiritual, creative, vulnerable, masculine, and feminine (to name a few). Seated unwavering in the unified field of love, host of Super Woo radio, George Kavassilas, holds an impeccable space for this expansive conversation that explores the depths of our existence into other dimensions and beyond.

Starting with a glimpse into her love story with her husband Mason, this episode weaves in and out of Tahnee's life journey, her value system, and the tenets of yogic and Daoist teachings that have informed her awareness along the way. Tahnee talks openly about the grief and bliss she has experienced in her life and discusses the importance of honesty, courage, self-responsibility, and sovereignty in any healthy relationship, business or personal.

George and Tahnee discuss energy centres, chakra systems, other dimensions of space and time, and current events that call upon us to be clear on our value systems as we move towards an ominous technological future; that thrives on hive mind mentality.

Tahnee's willingness to be equally real and vulnerable on all things discussed in this episode reminds us of the power our voices have when we operate from a place of integrity and speak from a place of authenticity.
 

 

"But it's this idea of, complete self-mastery isn't, 'I can hold my breath for 15 minutes. Or, I can stop my heart'... Or whatever it is. Those are all interesting things to play with. But can you actually master yourself? Can you master the singularity? And can you actually be in control"? 

 

- Tahnee Taylor

 

 

Tahnee and George discuss:

  • Pain.
  • Trust.
  • Projection. 
  • Vulnerability.
  • Co-creation.
  • Relationships.
  • Value systems.
  • Natural yoga.
  • Plant medicine.
  • Shinto Buddhism.
  • Tantric Buddhism.
  • The chakra system.
  • Living authentically.
  • How to sit in discomfort. 
  • Honesty in all relationships.
  • Tahnee's embodiments of Yoga.
  • Boundary setting in relationships.
  • Connection in an age of disconnect.

 

 

Tahnee Taylor

Tahnee is a self proclaimed nerd, with a love of the human body, its language and its stories. A cup of tonic tea and a human interaction with Tahnee is a gift! A beautiful Yin Yoga teacher and Chi Ne Tsang practitioner, Tahnee loves going head first into the realms of tradition, yogic philosophy, the organ systems, herbalism and hard-hitting research. Tahnee is the business brains behind SuperFeast, wife to Mason, and devoted mama to Aiya and baby Leo, the newest addition to the Taylor family.


George Kavassilas

George Kavassilas is an author, mentor, and public speaker. George has had a lifetime of experiences beyond the ordinary, encountering a wide spectrum of expressions of life both Inter-Dimensional and Extra-Terrestrial in nature. As a consequence, he went through a process of reconciling the knowledge and wisdom gained from these experiences and came to realise a natural responsibility to share what he has learned with our global community. George now embodies a limitless passion in addressing life’s primordial questions: “Who are we? Where do we come from? and What are we doing here?”

 George knows his life path includes a focus to expose all levels of deception, no matter how far they go. He carries a deep-seated sense of responsibility to help liberate our Humanity from all forms of imposing doctrine and dogma, without exception - be they Earthly or even Cosmic in nature. As George says, “It’s really a remembering process to revitalise and resurrect the Sovereign and Infinite Being you truly are.”

The Extent - The Challenge - The Creative Solution

 

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Resources:

Tahnee's website

Tahnee instagram

George's website

To contact George

Superwoo Radio (George's Podcast)

Our Universal Journey (George's Book) 

Transcending The God Matrix with George Kavassilas (EP#119)

 

Resources mentioned in the podcast:


Dr. Hiroshi Motoyama

Dr Hiroshi Motoyama books

The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali- book

Yin Yoga with Anatomist and Yogi Paul Grilley (EP#59)

 

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Check Out The Transcript Here:

 

George: (00:00:00)

Hello and welcome to another episode of Super Woo Radio. I am super excited today because I have a friend of mine who I have the utmost love, honour, and respect for and a very wonderful, healthy reverence for, because of basically her integrity as a woman and as not just any woman, but as a natural woman. And you all know I'm really big on that. So without any further ado, I would love to introduce to you Tahnee Taylor. How you going, Tahnee?

 

Tahnee: (00:00:42)

Recently married. George, thank you so much for having me. All of that same reverence and respect is straight back at you.

 

George: (00:00:53)

Oh, thank you so much.

 

Tahnee: (00:00:54)

I think we've known each other for six years now and I've just been so inspired knowing you and being in your circle and watching a path, and you just live with such integrity, so it's a pleasure to be here. Thank you.

 

George: (00:01:06)

Thank you. I appreciate that. It means a lot. Yeah. And just for the folks who are not aware that you recently married to Mason Taylor.

 

Tahnee: (00:01:21)

Yeah.

 

George: (00:01:21)

Yeah.

 

Tahnee: (00:01:22)

Friend of the podcast, I believe.

 

George: (00:01:24)

Yeah. We've had some really great jam sessions together. So much fun. And really the times that I've been over to your place and we've been just sitting around, we haven't done that a lot, but the times, it's more quality over quantity for us, I reckon.

 

Tahnee: (00:01:40)

Yeah.

 

George: (00:01:41)

The times that we have done it's like all our value systems just seem to line up so beautifully, and then you know what differences that are there, we celebrate them because they feel so good. So that's what I love about our relationship, and I consider you and Mason soul family. For sure.

 

Tahnee: (00:02:01)

Yeah.

 

George: (00:02:01)

It goes without saying, really. You can just feel it from the very first day that we crossed paths. So, we really have an exciting dialogue to explore. It's like an adventure. We're going to go an adventure today.

 

Tahnee: (00:02:15)

So ready.

 

George: (00:02:18)

Yeah. And look, first of all, you and Mason are the prime creators of this incredible business, SuperFeast. And what is the full company name? Is that it, or is it more to it?

 

Tahnee: (00:02:33)

Yeah, it's SuperFeast. So Mason, my husband, did start it. I want to acknowledge that because I think that leap of faith that it takes to birth something is under-acknowledged in business. I think to go from a concept to execution is massive. And the entity name is JEMS Superfoods, which encompasses his mother, Janise, his partner Ellie at the time, Mason, and then Steve, who was Janise's partner, so it's really cute that there's this kind of legacy of their contribution to the business at that early stage. And that was seed funding from his mom, which we've just paid back after 10 years of business. Isn't that funny? It was a low-priority loan, unfortunately for her. And just advice and support from his partner at the time and his step-father.

 

Tahnee: (00:03:26)

And I think when you think about business, especially family business, it really does just permeate your entire existence and your entire reality. So, we got together and I started working, as you know, on retreats with Mason and we had some really fun adventures there. And yeah, he kind of needed support with the business side of things. And my background is really varied, but I've always had a lot of privilege in being offered the opportunity to run other people's businesses. So I've run yoga studios and cafes and departments in a publishing house and stuff, and worked in advertising for a little bit. So I kind of had this broad scope, but nothing very specific, which I think helps in a sort of startup energy, [crosstalk 00:04:14] because you need to know how to do-

 

George: (00:04:15)

It's a wonderful skillset that you've accumulated.

 

Tahnee: (00:04:18)

Yeah.

 

George: (00:04:19)

Because it's like [crosstalk 00:04:20]-

 

Tahnee: (00:04:20)

[inaudible 00:04:20].

 

George: (00:04:22)

... and it's like, this is just perfect for what you're stepping into now.

 

Tahnee: (00:04:26)

Yeah. And I'd been studying herbalism, so that's kind of how I connected with Mason. I went and did an ayahuasca ceremony. Actually ayahuasca I have a lot of reverence and respect for, but San Pedro really was my medicine on that journey and San Pedro and I kind of had this really beautiful interaction. And I just remember so deeply being drawn to sort of use the privilege I had in owning this yoga business to expand the community and to elevate sort of... Or to just shift the consciousness of the people that were coming.

 

Tahnee: (00:05:02)

And I was like workshops and bringing in people who are doing things that are sort of outside the norm. So, I kind of got back from this... It was a three or four day journey. I got back home and I jumped on Instagram. And one of the first things that popped up was this guy who I didn't know, and I thought he was pretty cute, which is why I clicked on the picture. Turns out he owns this company called SuperFeast, and I was like, "Oh, cool." And I saw a picture of him doing a chat at a Jeff Slater event, which we both know Jeff, as well.

 

George: (00:05:35)

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

 

Tahnee: (00:05:35)

And so, yeah, I recognised that maybe Mason did talks, so I reached out to him. And he, within minutes, was like, "Yeah, I'll totally come and do a talk." And then, we had this great phone call where we were on the phone for about two hours, just talking about aliens and life and consciousness and all this crazy stuff. And I thought, "Well, this guy's really cool." So, I did say to my flatmate at the time, a bit predatory, it's like, "If he comes to stay with me, you never know what might happen."

 

George: (00:06:06)

Yeah. Yeah.

 

Tahnee: (00:06:07)

But anyways, someone else told me-

 

George: (00:06:09)

Well, sometimes we're sensing a future timeline, as well. It's not like so much [crosstalk 00:06:15] thought process from the present, but more of a sense of a future timeline. Yeah.

 

Tahnee: (00:06:21)

Yeah, and sometimes boys are just cute.

 

George: (00:06:23)

Yeah.

 

Tahnee: (00:06:26)

No, I could really feel like we had a connection, for sure. But anyway, someone told me he was married, so I kind of parked that idea and forgot about it. And anyway, when he arrived, we had a vibe and we had really great chats; but I kind of had him as being with someone, and I was certainly not interested in a relationship at the time. Anyway, we kind of just managed to keep staying in each other's circles, and about a month later, we reconnected. And I'd just been doing a cadaver dissection workshop at a university, so I'd been around bodies that have been donated to be dissected. And it was a pretty confronting day.

 

George: (00:07:06)

Yeah, I bet.

 

Tahnee: (00:07:08)

Quite beautiful, which I was not expecting. I had more fear going in and it was actually very beautiful to be able to witness people in that sort of space, and just their sort of generosity in helping us to better understand this vessel. I thought it was really lovely. And I had a beautiful swim at Wollongong and I ended up staying with Mason that night and that was kind of the end of it. We were on. So, all of that led us to being pregnant by the time we were together for two years... Or 18 months [inaudible 00:07:42] decided to work together at the time. So we had this really kind of quick journey to being two individuals who were then working together, having a baby together, living together, building a world together, so I'm really proud of how we've navigated that. I don't think it's [crosstalk 00:08:02].

 

George: (00:08:01)

Me too.

 

Tahnee: (00:08:03)

Yeah.

 

George: (00:08:03)

You've been truly a great inspiration. Even attending your wedding, it was plain to see the impact you're having with the community around you. And you are also an inspiration, also both of you just such wonderful teachers, because of the degree of natural integrity that you both embody. It's super fantastic to see and witness.

 

Tahnee: (00:08:29)

Yeah. And I think being with someone you admire and respect on that level... And we've actually been doing a process with the business where we've been talking about sort of our motivations as a team for being there. And I forget how much I've grown sometimes just through being Mason's partner. He really believes in me and he just doesn't let me hide, and I think there's something very powerful about that. And the level of truth that I've been able to excavate from myself in that relationship. I think you grow up thinking you want the ideal relationship, but it's so hard. It's so hard. And I've been with lots of beautiful men who just... We couldn't quite find that in either of us. It's not anyone's else's fault. I take full responsibility for that.

 

Tahnee: (00:09:21)

And I remember before I committed to Mason, I really committed to myself. And in that moment, I remember looking at him and being in love with him, but knowing I didn't need to be in love with him. And that was, for me... I said it to Mason one day he was like, "That's a bit shit." I was like, "No, it's really good because it meant that I went in without needing you to fix me or make me whole, or do anything for me beyond just be you." And that was a massive shift in my beingness around relationship, and I don't have great modelling in relationship. My parents are still together, but they're not particularly happy. And I think it's been a real journey for me to come to a place of wanting to commit to someone and know that I don't need them, but still face up to the journey and know that even if it ends, it's worth it. We've done this together. [crosstalk 00:10:18].

 

George: (00:10:17)

Oh, that's best wisdom I've heard in a long time. I fully, fully embrace that wisdom and that perspective and that philosophy. And I'm the same. And it's like entering into a relationship myself, and it's like, well, whatever, however long it lasts, whatever it's going to look like... It's no expectations and none of this, and moving forward. It just needs to be. And you said it perfectly: coming together on the level, and then just this contribution to one another. That it's not about fixing. But I find... Because with my circle of friends that I've got and my mates, you could say my bros, my buddies, it's really interesting, because we set that up in our relationships. And because I've had this beautiful experience with that in primarily, I have to say, my twos sons that were really open and honest with each other.

 

George: (00:11:21)

And I treat my sons as mates and we call each other "bro" rather than "son" or "Dad." And it's really nice to have that open, loving, honest, vulnerable relationship and be willing to talk about anything. To know that it's safe to be able to open up and not get your heart trampled on, and to be held beautifully. And so, with my sons, I've got it with my friends, with my mates and my circle of friends; and woman friends, as well. And now translating that into a more personal, intimate relationship. And what I'm finding is the growth that is occurring because of the rawness and the honesty is just so profound. Yeah. It really enables that dialogue to occur where we can just sit and listen and be held and be supported and know that what's coming towards me is coming from a place of care. And if there is a "disturbance in the force, Luke," then you can actually feel if there's a wound speaking and there's [crosstalk 00:12:32]-

 

Tahnee: (00:12:31)

Totally.

 

George: (00:12:32)

... going on, and you can actually bring that up because it's safe to bring it up with the other person, as well.

 

Tahnee: (00:12:37)

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

 

George: (00:12:38)

It's just a beautiful space.

 

Tahnee: (00:12:40)

Well, it's a beautiful... I mean our acupuncturist said it to me a couple of years ago and it really landed to me. He's like, "What's the purpose of being in relationship with someone if you aren't committed to mutual growth together?" And that's sort of more psychological and spiritual growth. Or reproducing, basically. He's like, "Those are the kind of the two reasons you're going to be together. And otherwise," he's like, "You're either tending each other's wounds. You're kind of perpetuating some pattern. Otherwise, it's just a pretty toxic cycle." Right?

 

George: (00:13:10)

Yeah.

 

Tahnee: (00:13:10)

And that might sound depressing, but I definitely think for me, leaning into... I've told Mason stuff that I've never spoken aloud. And just even going through processes of knowing what to do with my life. I mean, I'm on a beautiful path, but sometimes you still have doubt, or you still go through, "Is this really like what I'm meant to be doing?" We were chatting off-camera before about where we live, and it's like, I'm really drawn to a lot of solitude and isolation, and I'm able to express that without him feeling rejected or needing to fix it or needing it to be different. And I hope, I think, he feels the same way, and we really do we really just try and hold that for each other. And we try and be very real about when we've made mistakes. And I'll often go up to him 10 minutes after I've said something awful and say, "That was a total projection. I'm being a bitch. I need to go and deal with myself first and come back to you."

 

George: (00:14:13)

Exactly.

 

Tahnee: (00:14:13)

Yeah.

 

George: (00:14:13)

Yeah.

 

Tahnee: (00:14:15)

And you have to be able to do that. Otherwise, you're creating more pain and suffering in the world, and I don't want to contribute to that at the end of the day. And none of us are perfect. We are both are constantly working on ourselves. And I think our business really reflects that same passion for evolution and growth. And it's not about where you are being wrong. It's just about: is there still an opportunity to grow? We're all little oak seeds and we can grow into these beautiful, big acorns. Why wouldn't we take the opportunity to experience what's possible in this 3D reality? It's one of the things I love about what you teach.

 

Tahnee: (00:14:53)

It's like, this is a light-based universe we've all chosen to be in. Why on earth wouldn't we make the most of the opportunities here? And I know that's a hard thing for some people to get to, because they've come through a lot of pain and suffering; but so have I, and I think the older I get the less I'm... It's like, I don't need to hold onto those narratives. They're don't serve. And they're not really in support of my highest good, whatever that means to you. And yeah, I feel this real integrity in that. And I think having a child, watching Mason become a father, and I'm sure for him, watching me become a mother, and just that... I don't know. I know it's partly hormones, but there's something else that happens when you have a baby that-

 

George: (00:15:37)

Totally.

 

Tahnee: (00:15:38)

You're in bed with the person who you've co-created life with, and you've, as a woman, been a portal for life to move through. I mean, that to me is... I can still palpably feel like how much that moves me. And I would lie in bed every night when she was tiny, we co-slept, and I would just feel this love just supporting us. And I think that's, for me, if that's there, then it's worth it. Any suffering, any pain, it's going to be worth it because we're kind of still in that field. And I think getting married for me was such a beautiful step into faith and trust and love and devotion and willingness to go on this journey with another person. And I don't know. I love love, too. I'm a bit of a romantic. It's like: why wouldn't you, if you could?

 

George: (00:16:38)

Totally. Totally. I love to love, and it's nice to be with someone who loves to love. And we love being loving beings and with our loving nature and that real gentle intimacy, and it's such a healthy reverence for one and another; and it's gorgeous. And yeah, we've been bearing witness to that with you and Mason, like I said. And you are wonderful teachers and great inspiration to so many people. And it's nice to talk to you because you're so realistic and earthed. And we're not talking about the Hollywood relationship or notion of romance or storybook. It's just real and it's not pretentious and riding off into the sunset happily ever after burping butterflies and farting rainbows. It's just not real. We're going to have that those days, which is really [inaudible 00:17:35].

 

Tahnee: (00:17:35)

Yeah.

 

George: (00:17:36)

And those moments.

 

Tahnee: (00:17:36)

Yeah.

 

George: (00:17:37)

However, there's great challenges in life. And especially with the way the world is today, it provides even more challenges. The pressure upon all relationships now. So that's why being with somebody now that you can really communicate well with; or if you can, for those folks who are already in relationships and you're not really having that communication, to actually go about making changes, to sit down and talk and be honest, and be the first to be willing to be vulnerable and [inaudible 00:18:09] way in the relationship. And I think that's really, really important right now. More than ever.

 

Tahnee: (00:18:16)

I completely agree, and I think leaning in, I... And I'm committed to this on a mental level, but then it's like, "All right, I have to embody this in my lived experience with this person." I can be lying there in bed and I can feel the tension and I can feel like, "I could not do anything right now and we could go to sleep on this and carry it forward, or I could turn to him and be vulnerable and admit whatever's going on, or take responsibility." And it's worth doing that for me, that little bit of losing face and that little bit of whatever. And it takes courage, I think, to do that. And, look, I still have to wrestle with myself a lot of the time. And I had it come up with a friend recently.

 

Tahnee: (00:18:58)

We did a five day sort of personal development course in Brisbane, and it was really intense. There was no sleep. They really drill you in these things. And the last night, she said something to me that was, in any other circumstance, I wouldn't have even cared. It was just like a snide kind of little jokey stab thing that I knew wasn't coming from... It was coming out of exhaustion and us just being at the end of our tethers, right? I took it really personally. I got really upset and I felt myself just build a wall. I just shut down. And we just spent five days being deeply connected to one another and I killed it because of one comment. And I remember lying there and I thought, "I could not do anything about this, or I could do something about this." And this relationship was worth more to me than holding a grudge over one comment.

 

Tahnee: (00:19:46)

And so, I climbed into bed with her and we had a cuddle and a laugh and a cry. It's fine now, but that was a big thing for me, because I just was lying there, reflecting on all of the relationships I've ended because of something that hurt me, that broke my trust. And I have issues with trust. People that are meant to be elders in my life aren't trustworthy, so I've cultivated a lack of trust my life. And so, I'm having to lean into, "How do I learn to trust?" And these are just my [inaudible 00:20:18] examples, but they mean a lot to me because I'm cultivating this in all of my relationships, with my staff. Sitting in front of someone and giving them feedback to someone you love and care about outside of work, but then having to critique their performance, that's very difficult.

 

Tahnee: (00:20:36)

And who am I to say? A lot of the time I struggle with that. Who am I to give you feedback on your... And we believe in the sovereignty of our staff, so it is difficult for me to sometimes pull them up on things and stuff like that. And I think those things in SuperFeast have been such a huge, positive growth experience for me in understanding leadership and reflecting on leadership styles and looking at where I fall into... We call it "below the line." But I'll get frustrated, and then instead of slowing down, taking a breath, and trying to articulate what's going on, I go into a frustrated, kind of stubborn, almost a tantrum mode where I'm just like, "No, this isn't..." And it's like you just shut off. You shut off from everyone else in the room.

 

Tahnee: (00:21:25)

You've lost communication. Everyone else is going into survival patterns, so they're all shutting down. And you've made no progress. So you've got to come back to, "All right, well, I'm responsible for the energy I'm bringing to the space. I'm responsible for what's going on here. And this is not a productive pattern." So, these are things that come up for us all the time, and business is such a dojo. We say this all the time. Relationships are a dojo. You're going in with your best intention, and then you're going to be triggered and you're going to be pushed, and you have to practise. You just have to keep practising . And then, have, I think, the space and time to self- reflect and kind of work out, "Well, what am I responsible for? And what's mine, and what can I let the other person carry?"

 

Tahnee: (00:22:08)

Yeah. And that's where yoga fits in for me, because I really think of it as an opportunity, I suppose, to return to me before all of the layers of personality and performance are kind of put on me, or I put them on myself, and that... You say natural yoga, and it is. It's a sense of, "Who am I at my core, at the very centre of myself, without any of this kind of holographic projection that I need to use to get through life?" Like I need to be tiny. The yoga teacher, sometimes I need to be tiny. The mother, sometimes I need to be tiny. The lover sometimes, I have to do this. But if I buy into any of those too much, I'm going to end up pretty unhappy, because it's a facade. It's a fake way to live. It's not authentic. So that's where I-

 

George: (00:22:57)

Most people will live that way.

 

Tahnee: (00:23:01)

Look, and it's easier. I definitely don't blame them. Sometimes, yeah, I like to never question anything. I get it. I totally get it. "La, la, la." It's fine if that's how you want to live. But I couldn't. I just couldn't. And I've been like that since I was a little kid. It doesn't fit for me to not ask questions and not try and... When you were speaking before, all I'm feeling is goosebumps and electricity, and it's like, why wouldn't you want to open up to that experience in your body of connection? You don't need to be face to face with someone to connect. That's been a huge thing for me with this current time, with Zoom. But I've had some incredible, authentic, powerful connections.

 

Tahnee: (00:23:49)

And I wouldn't know I wouldn't recognise them without my yoga training, because it's taught me how to be in my body while I'm wearing a mask, and it's taught me how to be sensitive to... I call it qi or prana, like the energy moving in the body, and these kinds of rivers or flows and currents of energy that we all have that we just don't pay attention to because we're not taught. And we are all taught very much... I'm reading a lot of Steiner's work right now because my daughter's turning five, and he talks so much about the children and how they... Look, I don't know, a hundred percent about Steiner. I'm just exploring him. But what he says about children I think is so relevant. He's like, "They come in. They're these little soul beings who don't understand what this body is and these big reactions and this clumsiness and all of this stuff." Imagine you've just been given a meat suit and asked to walk around. It's tricky. Right?

 

George: (00:24:41)

Yeah.

 

Tahnee: (00:24:41)

And then, we put them into school and we start trying to put complex, kind of high... Letters are symbols, right? They're code for something.

 

George: (00:24:51)

Yeah, like runes.

 

Tahnee: (00:24:51)

And we put that on a child...

 

George: (00:24:52)

Yeah.

 

Tahnee: (00:24:52)

Exactly. We're going to put that on a child at five. And back in the day, all of those ruins reflected nature, right? So we used a mountain or a river, or like qi in Chinese character is a grain of rice being cooked and then that's producing energy, and so energy literally is like food. Yeah. That makes a lot of sense, right? But we've lost that kind of organic and natural relationship with our symbols, so we're trying to force children to learn symbols and a kind of math and all these things, and it's like, well, no, we're taking them away from the whole from the beginning and that's not in service to their spiritual development or their human development.

 

Tahnee: (00:25:31)

And that's, I think, what I've come to full circle without having that education as a child, but I need to start from the whole and kind of work out. Otherwise, it's so easy just to be in your head all the time and to rationalise everything. And the herbal work that we do, we struggle a lot in the space that we're in, because everyone wants to know what percentage of beta-glucans and "da, da, da, da, da." And we get it. I know that people want good quality product and that's their kind of entry to that, and I hear them, but what about the relationship the people who produced this plant have with this plant? What about its relationship with the atmosphere and the sun and the elements?

 

Tahnee: (00:26:11)

What about how it plays in your body? What about your personal relationship with imbibing this being? Because it is. It's a being. It's not it's not like a brown pile of herbs. It's a being and it's going to come in and it's going to work with you. And I mean, I took reishi for the first time and I was like, "Well, hello." This being is supporting me in my heart, in my practise, in my openness. And I was like, "Well, this is a completely different experience to me to taking something from a naturopath that's like in a little capsule." So I'm having a relationship with this product and this entity, this energy, that's bigger than a little herb that I sort of conceptualised as being good for my immune system or whatever.

 

George: (00:26:58)

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

 

Tahnee: (00:26:58)

And all of this stuff fits so beautifully together. What is an immune system? It's like integrated whole, right? There's no way to penetrate this being because this being has full integration and it's aligned and it's in alignment. So it's like, "Well, if your immune system's going down all the time, what's going on? Where are you out of alignment? What are you doing to contribute to that?" And that's that piece around self-responsibility, which we call sovereignty at SuperFeast. And this isn't sovereignty like leaving the government. Though, you may want to do that. But it's more like health sovereignty or self-responsibility, taking the ownership of what your journey is and where you've contributed to where you're at in this moment.

 

Tahnee: (00:27:38)

And that might be through other entities and energy contributions, as well, that we often get affected by what's around us. It's not to say everyone's kind of responsible for everything, but I do think... My experience is every time I turn it around back to me, I get stronger and I get more powerful and I get more clear. And anytime I'm projecting out that someone else has done something to me, I lose my power. I lose my energy. And so, that just doesn't feel good to me, it doesn't serve me, and I haven't had a lot of success with it. And then, yeah, it's like, if it doesn't work, get rid of it. That's my theory.

 

George: (00:28:12)

Yeah. And that's where our values system meet up so beautifully, because I'm all about, "I'm the prime creator of all my experiences." Meaning my multidimensional self, not just the persona.

 

Tahnee: (00:28:26)

Yeah.

 

George: (00:28:26)

So we've got the taking the ownership and understanding that, in my work and my teachings, it's the others that, even though we can call them out, other entities and other beings, and say, "Hey, you're behaving like this. It's impacting me. You're contributing to my feeling this way." Ultimately, I'm the one who's allowing it. However, it's still nice to understand that the actual experience that we're having is a co-creation-

 

Tahnee: (00:28:58)

Totally. Yep.

 

George: (00:28:59)

... between us and others, whatever that "others" may be; whether it's a piece of technology, whether it's an animal, whether it's the weather, whether it's the planet, whether it's another human being, whether it's an interdimensional entity, it's still a co-creative process.

 

Tahnee: (00:29:12)

Yeah.

 

George: (00:29:12)

But still owning it. So acknowledging the co-creative process, but also owning and that self-responsibility, that sovereignty, like you said. And I love how you align sovereignty with self-responsibility. I don't think there's enough of that, so I really love that.

 

Tahnee: (00:29:30)

Well, and I think what you're pointing to there comes down to the stuff we're talking about, about being in relationship. And it's about being able to look at healthy boundaries and all of these things. And I completely agree with you. It doesn't matter if it's a... I've had a limited experience with what you would call "ghosts," I suppose. I've been able to communicate with them and help them move on. It's happened twice in my life, and I've also had other experiences like that. And for me, it's about knowing what your needs are in that moment and how that being is being able to express, "Well, this is out of alignment with what I need and I don't want to play this game with you anymore. And it's done now. Thank you very much. Move on."

 

Tahnee: (00:30:18)

And I think that's what people don't recognise as a part of... I hear it a lot in this area. We live near Byron, so they're like, "Oh, I've got a parasite," or, "I've got a 'this,'" or, "I've got this entity following me around." And I'm like, " Okay, cool. Why are you letting this entity follow you around? Why are you letting this parasite live in you?" And I know that's a big question-

 

George: (00:30:38)

[inaudible 00:30:38].

 

Tahnee: (00:30:38)

... and I'm not saying I have all the answers. But I'm saying that if you start to reflect on, "Well, where in my life am I allowing this to happen?" then you start to sort of... I mean, I just had this [inaudible 00:30:49] with my mom. I haven't spoken about this publicly. We got married. She looked like she was having a great day. A week later, she turns around and basically she calls my husband a whole bunch of names. She tells me she's going to call DoCS on me because I'm a terrible mother. She goes just completely off her rocker, right?

 

George: (00:31:06)

Wow.

 

Tahnee: (00:31:07)

And she's had a history of bad behaviour. I've got lots of great stories I could share. And her mother was mentally unwell, and so I can see the lineage.

 

George: (00:31:17)

Yeah.

 

Tahnee: (00:31:17)

For sure. I can have compassion, but I can also set a boundary and say, "You're not welcome in my home, because the way you behave is not in alignment with how we choose to behave in our home. And until such a time as we can either see a mediator together and discuss how we're going to move forward with this, or actually you can recognise that when you're in my home that you have to act with compassion, care, and love, then we're not going to be in relationship at this point." And that doesn't discount her as my mom. I'm not pushing her away. I feel a lot of sadness and grief, and I've been on a big journey with this for the last six months. But I also feel very clear that it's not okay to behave like that. And honestly, the amount of shifts that's made from setting that boundary with her, that's changed so much in my life in six-

 

Tahnee: (00:32:03)

That's made from setting that boundary with her. That's changed so much in my life in six months. And I can't believe I've been allowing that for 35 years. I've been letting her hold this energy in my life for so long and not taking responsibility for my part in it. So I'm speaking from a very personal place here when I speak about this stuff.

 

George: (00:32:19)

Well, that's why I wanted to acknowledge the degree of vulnerability you are expressing right now and for everyone who's going to listen to this moving forward. Again, that's one of the things I love so much about you is your willingness to be so real and vulnerable and these personal issues, and I'm sure a lot of people can relate because that value system...

 

George: (00:32:44)

When you have someone that's so close to you and you say, "Look, I cannot." And I've had to do it with very close ones, loved ones as well, when you get to the point where like, "Hey, I love you, all right? But right now I don't like you. I don't like your behaviour. I have a value system around that and I've got boundaries, and if you're not willing to go through some changes and meet me halfway somewhere along the line there, then we cannot. I don't want to be around you and I don't want you to be around me in my home and my ecosystem." It's just my boundaries. That's it. That's my value system.

 

George: (00:33:24)

I feel that it's a very, very important move that you made, because also you are protecting your family. You're protecting your daughter and [Aya 00:33:34]. Is it okay to mention Aya's name?

 

Tahnee: (00:33:35)

Yeah, of course. Well, she is the reason I have the strength to do that, because if it were me, and I can reflect on times when I've been treated the same way or worse by my mom. It probably started, especially from around sort of 10 and it goes through waves. It can be quite peaceful for periods and then not. I've just always made excuses for her. And one of the things that's come up for me is embarrassment and shame that I've allowed her to treat people I love that way for such a long time. I've made excuses for her because she's my mom. One of them is my brother. One of them is my dad. And I asked my dad, "Why are you with her?" And he's like, "Oh, I don't want some other guy to have to be with her." And I just thought that is tragic.

 

Tahnee: (00:34:29)

And it's not the kind of modelling I want for my daughter around relationship. I'm very conscious of how she views relationship. Both Mason and I come from pretty weird family backgrounds. I just think that's not okay. It's not okay that my mom can verbally abuse my father nearly every day and he just takes it. That's not okay. It's not good enough. For me, well, I can't change his mind. He makes his choices. He's a man who's old enough to make that decision for himself. But my daughter, she is little and she needs protecting, and she can't make decisions around what's appropriate or not. She's learning from the people who are modelling that behaviour to her.

 

Tahnee: (00:35:11)

And so for me, there's nothing in their relationship that's healthy that I want her to see and to model. And the way my mom behaves and treats other people, excluding animals and children, she's great with them, but the way she treats other adults is not another way I want my child to be exposed to. For me, that's quite a clear boundary. Whereas I definitely can feel, before that, I wouldn't have had probably the strength and also enough of a rationalisation, I suppose. But also I can see my dad in me where I'm willing to be the victim for someone else to not feel hurt, even to not stand up for myself. I think I can see that in my dad. He doesn't have the capacity and the courage to stand up to her and say, "Enough is enough. You can't treat me like this."

 

Tahnee: (00:36:02)

He takes on all the guilt and shame and blame of all the things that have happened in their relationship, which is her narrative. It's, everything's his fault and she's the victim. And I'm not willing to be. I'm not willing to take that on anymore, and that's been a long... I've been in therapy, I've done lots of other things. I've done medicine. I've done lots of meditation and yoga. I think I'm at a point where having had a child myself and now watching how vulnerable children are to the energy in the space, I'm like, God. The amount of stuff my brother and I went through that we just thought was normal because you don't know any better.

 

George: (00:36:42)

Yeah.

 

Tahnee: (00:36:45)

I don't know. Does everyone else's parents do this? You don't ask.

 

George: (00:36:46)

Yeah, for me, I got to share with my father how I felt before he passed over, and then he passed over six weeks later. So it was a massive closure process for me, and I can see my sister never got a chance to do that. And so she still carries a lot of that wounding.

 

George: (00:37:07)

I'm big on closure. It's one of my main tools that I promote and share. I feel that being able to actually have that communication and have that energy exchange. And it's not venting. It really is offloading the energy, but it's not projecting and venting. It's actually getting it out and moving the energy and shifting it. That's why people do yoga or medicine or whatever to move that energy. Get a good massage, you can move some of that energy, deep fascia work, all that sort of stuff. However, I find that when we actually are able to communicate it, then that seems to have the deepest effect of all. I feel that's incredibly powerful.

 

Tahnee: (00:37:51)

Well, this is the power of the voice, right? I think part of the thing that's been happening for me in the last few years, especially since meeting Mase is more strength in my voice and feeling... If you think about what we create when we speak, and again, you think about the power of sound and vibration if you've ever done medicine, sound. [crosstalk 00:38:13] Yeah. You know that there's this... And if you think about spectrums of light and everything's existing on this same sort of spectrum, we have manifestation powers in different ways. I think our voice is one of those powerful tools that we have, and when we speak something that comes from a place of deep truth, instead of from projection or pain or anything like that, literally things change in an instant.

 

Tahnee: (00:38:39)

And that's the piece that I... It's been happening for me for a few years now, but I'm just really noticing the more courage I bring to that and the more I'm willing to put my voice out there without trying to project or blame... Talking about my parents, I think, gosh, would I want them to listen to this? But, well, I speak in a way that feels true that I know that I have no shame or fear about them hearing this. I would say all of this to their face and I have said all of this to their faces. And there's a lot of integrity there for me. I think the more, again, I'm getting older and I just realise how often we use our words either as weapons or as ways of avoiding any kind of authenticity and truth, or we just don't speak, which is another very powerful pattern.

 

Tahnee: (00:39:30)

I think when you look at things like yoga and stuff, they they emphasise these different energy centres, and I know you speak to chakra so I'm interested to talk to you about this, but I know for me, I regularly have neck pain and these kinds of things. Then when I start to use my voice and liberate that space, that sort of starts to move and starts to go away. I think about my dad and he's had thyroid issues, which is correlated to this energetic area, and he doesn't speak his truth. Yeah, there's this real sense of if you're not mindful, this energy that you're talking about, it gets denser and denser and denser, and it manifests, and it manifests as pain, and it manifests as disease and it manifests as suffering.

 

Tahnee: (00:40:16)

Again, coming back to self-responsibility, I can prevent self from being unwell in the future. Why wouldn't I? Why wouldn't I work for that? Invariably, you do find deeper connection. I feel closer to my dad at the moment, even though I don't agree with his choices, through our capacity to talk and his willingness to listen. I've said things to him that I feel would be very difficult to hear from your child, and he's really been able to hold that for me. I feel very grateful that I've got that relationship in my family dynamic, if not with my mom.

 

Tahnee: (00:40:47)

Yeah. And I see that with Mason, when I choose to use my words with truth and kindness and honesty, our connection goes so much deeper, and deeper than you think is possible. So I would advocate, if you're out there listening, it's one thing to take in information, but to actually speak what you see and what you feel and how you are viewing the world, I think that's a powerful tool.

 

George: (00:41:15)

Oh, wow.

 

Tahnee: (00:41:16)

And this culture is not set up for that. We don't want people to express themselves. We want them to buy shit, we want them to watch the mainstream media. That's the kind of agenda.

 

George: (00:41:28)

Push down all the feelings and emotions. And if it is to come out, it's going to come out through inappropriate sex or violence or anger.

 

Tahnee: (00:41:38)

Alcohol. I mean, why do people love drinking? Because you get to feel differently. You're actually able to express yourself. So, yeah.

 

George: (00:41:48)

Yeah. And that's a really segue into yoga.

 

Tahnee: (00:41:49)

Yoga.

 

George: (00:41:54)

Just pausing. Pause just for a sec? Just want to open my window. Segue into-

 

Tahnee: (00:42:00)

I might grab a quick drink.

 

George: (00:42:01)

Yeah. Grab yourself some water. Yeah, too funny. So I've got to, just before we go into to the yoga space, when I did my last interview with Mason, just before we were about to start, there was this voice bellowing in the warehouse below.

 

Tahnee: (00:42:29)

Oh yeah?

 

George: (00:42:30)

And that was [Yani 00:42:31]. I don't know if you heard about that?

 

Tahnee: (00:42:32)

Mason told me, yeah.

 

George: (00:42:34)

Yeah, we're just about to do interview and my son walks into the...

 

Tahnee: (00:42:38)

Walks in?

 

George: (00:42:40)

Into the warehouse down at [inaudible 00:42:42], yeah.

 

Tahnee: (00:42:43)

He comes to visit probably once a fortnight, I think. Love it.

 

George: (00:42:47)

And while we were talking just then he called.

 

Tahnee: (00:42:49)

Did he? That is so wild.

 

George: (00:42:55)

[crosstalk 00:42:55] that is wild. And just to share a little story that Yani was one of Aiya's primary babysitters. They get on so well.

 

Tahnee: (00:43:07)

I think they're the same person about 20 years apart.

 

George: (00:43:11)

Yeah, they're definitely from the same soul family. I mean...

 

Tahnee: (00:43:16)

Yeah.

 

George: (00:43:18)

Unreal, unreal.

 

Tahnee: (00:43:19)

Some kind of cheeky, comedic.

 

George: (00:43:22)

Yeah.

 

Tahnee: (00:43:22)

Music loving.

 

George: (00:43:22)

Did he love his [crosstalk 00:43:23]. It's just beautiful. Just one of those beautiful moments in life.

 

Tahnee: (00:43:26)

And he's a such beautiful soul, Yani.

 

George: (00:43:29)

Oh, he is. Yeah. He's growing so much, and the journey he's been on, journey of self discovery, he's come such a long way. I'm so proud of him. Yes.

 

Tahnee: (00:43:39)

You should be. Yeah. Like Papa, like son.

 

George: (00:43:43)

Yeah, I seek counsel from him. I did recently as well, and he provided fantastic counsel for me. He's a very wise, old and ancient being for sure. Both my sons are. I see counsel from both of them. Yeah, hold great reverence for my boys. I'm very proud of both of them. It's fantastic.

 

Tahnee: (00:44:03)

Yeah. They're really nice. Really nice men. That's, I think, such a beautiful... Strong, beautiful men, it's very special to create that.

 

George: (00:44:12)

Thank you. Thank you, Tahnee. Mate, with the yoga thing, I love the discussions that we've had. Yoga, the conversations and dialogues I've had with Mason in regards to Daoism and his take on Daoism, because he deep dived into the most ancient expression of that.

 

Tahnee: (00:44:35)

Yep.

 

George: (00:44:35)

And because he's all about going back to the original, the point of origin and the original intention, and the purity. I feel you've done the same with yoga in the conversations we've had or the comments that you've made in dialogues I've had with Mason and around our philosophical values, et cetera, et cetera. Because the forms of yoga that I've experienced personally are not the classic religious contemporary [crosstalk 00:45:08]-

 

Tahnee: (00:45:07)

Yeah.

 

George: (00:45:07)

... yoga. It's actually pre-kundalini, chakras, pineal, in the sense of working with the body. And yeah, there's energies in different parts of the body, but it's just specifically not focusing on that form of chakra system, but acknowledging there's energies all over the body. There's hundreds of energetics over the body, however. And just not focusing on those primary seven and maybe a few above and below.

 

George: (00:45:42)

So, how can you speak to that? In the sense of, if I was to ask you to give me, not so much of an elevator speech, but a more detailed, more in-depth dialogue in the sense of, what are the values of the yoga that you have dived into, that you're embodying, that you share, that you teach, that you mentor and you express? Because it is an extremely deep and powerful way of life.

 

Tahnee: (00:46:14)

Look, I agree with you in the sense that contemporary yoga has lost the way. Definitely, I think Mason and I, one of the things we connected on was this sense that there's got to be more than the accepted public narrative around these practises like Daoism and yoga. I see them really as having the same root, Daoism and yoga. To me, the similarities of too obvious to really... To imagine that they would be different. I think what happened culturally is obviously as countries formed and different cultural groups took hold of things, things evolved in sort of different directions. I definitely see, obviously, a lot of religiosity in the way in which the Hindu culture has, I guess, used yoga as a part of their religious system. And similarly, in China, there's now gods and things associated with Daoism which kind of weren't really there originally.

 

Tahnee: (00:47:21)

I had a really recent... This might be a bit of a segue, but it's related. I had a really recent medicine journey up in Wilson's Creek with [San Pedro 00:47:31]. I had the Buddhist goddess Tara. There was a picture of her directly in front of me when I was sitting and she was on a spacecraft surrounded by planets. She was this kind of space being, all blue. It just kind of dropped in for me. Of course, all that these yogis and daoists are doing are really dissolving this 3D reality and starting to interact in these astral domains and astral spaces and beyond.

 

Tahnee: (00:48:08)

What I've found to be the truest expression so far that I've been able to kind of piece together, and I've been practising since I was 15, and studying yoga diligently since I was probably 20, before that I think... I was very fortunate, my first teacher was an old man who would've been in his seventies, might have been older. He asked us to cultivate our chi at our sort of navel area. We created this big orange chi ball. And I was 15, so I was like, of course I can create a big orange chi ball. It didn't even occur to me that that would be a strange thing to do. Then I would, it was to use that energy into kind of a, move it through my body and see where I needed healing and then hold that energy in my hands and feel this power. It was just this really obvious and profound and easy experience for me. And I thought, oh, yoga. Anyway, I started going to classes and we were doing all this stuff and nobody's talked about energy once, nobody's talked about chi balls or any of this stuff. They just talk about these other things. I got a bit, okay, well, maybe that's just something that happened and got back over here in my peripherals. I kept practising these kind of vigorous styles, I was doing Ashtanga Vinyasa, so it's very disciplined. It's a lot of, six days a week, hour or two hours a day, go, go, go, very early in the morning. Very little in the way of discourse around the practise, which I liked. There was no talking and there's no... There's one mantra at the beginning, but it's very much a non-event in terms of any religiosity. There's no bhakti, nothing like that.

 

Tahnee: (00:49:48)

So for me, it was very practical. It was very easy. Disciplined very hard, but it was an easy thing to sort of fit in. I was very committed to that. Then I started going to like more public classes where people talked and all this stuff people were saying. Wow, it's kind of like self-help, but it's a little bit like religion, and it's a little bit of... I found yoga very confusing. I would've been in my late twenties when I started, when I went to my first real led classes. So I didn't really experience any of the stuff that you probably are talking about when you do talk about this kind of synthetic yoga. And I definitely see it in this area where there's a lot of either quite just generic, corporate, American yoga, which is this exercise class kind of style of yoga with a self-help, personal development slant, that's pretty popular. And I see a lot of the more esoteric, like kundalini yoga and those kinds of things.

 

Tahnee: (00:50:51)

So I guess where I fit is more in this sense of my experience with my own practise has been, it's just about peeling away the layers. And there's a guy called Patanjali who wrote a book called the Yoga Sutras, which does not mention chakra once. His book is very much about psychology. It's very much a piece on how we get distracted by cravings. We have all these aversions to things and that we push things away or we bring them forward, and this creates dissatisfaction. We end up striving for all these things to make us happy that are outside ourselves. We end up miserable and this is not the way, and the way is to turn it back and look at ourselves and actually start to examine, how do I live? What are my values? How do I move my body? How do I breathe? What am I able to focus my attention on? How do I cultivate that attention? How do I turn that attention inward? And then, how do I maintain this space of open awareness.

 

Tahnee: (00:51:54)

That's really a summary of the yamas, niyamas, asana, pranayama, dharana, all the way up to samadhi. And this idea of samadhi, I think, is misunderstood. People talk about it a lot, and there's different stages of samadhi. I think of it more as awareness, the ability to perceive without mistruth clouding your vision. If you are looking at the current mainstream news narrative, you're not in samadhi because you're seeing craving and aversion in the nth degree, and you're seeing humanity playing out maya, or the illusionary dance of life, that is not in service really to any of us. I mean, it's a necessary game and I'm personally not one that wants to transcend the game. I think the game is a part of it, but you need to see it for what it is. You need to be aware that it's not real and if you're participating in it, you're participating in it with that awareness that this is not actually... It's like acting in a play. I'm not really this character, but I'm going to give it my all for the time that I'm in this play, right?

 

George: (00:53:05)

Exactly.

 

Tahnee: (00:53:06)

And yes, that's-

 

George: (00:53:06)

Managing the time we engage and to what degree we engage, and for how long we engage. There's a lot of people that are walking around going, "Oh, I'm totally sovereign and I'm a %100 clear." And it's like, wow. The degree of self-delusion that's going on in people in the spiritual communities who say that.

 

Tahnee: (00:53:27)

I mean, look, it's just rampant. I think yoga, the way yoga has been taught and interpreted, has a lot to answer for, because it does say, "Oh, you can achieve this state of enlightenment, da, da, da, da, dah." Even Buddha, he just kept on living and he kept on making mistakes, and he kept on doing dumb shit. He wasn't enlightened. He just had awareness of his dumb shit. I find people miss that all the time. Buddha still died in a physical form. He still suffered, he still went through all of the things you go through. He just knew he was doing it. He was completely aware of the fact that it was happening to him. It's not about how much he meditated or how much navel gazing or any of this stuff. Actually, that stuff to me is just classic bullshit. You're just putting your projection of what's ethically and morally superior onto everybody else because you're a yoga teacher. That happens all the time as well.

 

George: (00:54:31)

Yeah, it does. Yeah.

 

Tahnee: (00:54:32)

I just think, no, who you are learning from is very important because, and this is in the yogic traditions, the guru is as important as the student because if you're learning from some fool, you're going to learn from a fool and you're going to become a fool. I don't have many teachers and I'm very fussy about who I study with. And I would only say, Paul Grilley, who's my yin teacher and my primary teacher is the only person I'm yet to find fault with. I feel like he embodies for me the integrity. He was the first person I ever met in yoga or anywhere who I thought was a Yogi. Oh, that's it. He's got great boundaries. He's got excellent communication style. He's got a long term relationship with a woman who he has ultimate reverence for, but he doesn't worship her. He just flat out respects her. They're able to participate in each other's lives, also have their own thing going on. They can talk about each other's faults without being jerks about it. There's just this real integrity with them that I haven't seen anywhere else.

 

Tahnee: (00:55:41)

I just found, being in his presence, I just find myself constantly moved into this purest space. And he's not easy on me. He's not a pussy cat. He's not someone that just tells you what you want to hear. But I just have so much respect and reverence to him as a person. He's taught me so much about yoga that I just didn't expect to learn from someone who I thought was just a Yin yoga teacher.

 

Tahnee: (00:56:14)

He's really interested in how we evolve. He's interested in human evolution and he speaks a lot to these... His teacher was Japanese, which I think might have a lot to do with his groundedness. His teacher was a Japanese priest of the Shinto Buddhist tradition, and he was an animist. So he spoke to the wind and he spoke to the trees. Yeah, and his work was very much around the health of the community that he lived in, so he did all of the entity clearing and all of the healing of the waters. He had to fix wells that the water spirit had been chased away or whatever. Things like that was his practise and his jam. He taught, he was a yogi as well in that he taught yoga principles.

 

Tahnee: (00:57:04)

He went through incredible initiation as a child. His mother and her friend, they took him on pilgrimage around Japan pretty much his whole childhood. He didn't really stay anywhere for very long. They would hold him under waterfalls for hours at a time, freezing cold waterfalls and make him do all these practises to develop his capacity, I suppose. So he's this very interesting person who passed on a lot of wisdom to Paul. I've found, especially through studying Dr. [Motoyama's 00:57:35] work, that's where I've seen a lot of overlap, I think, George, with your work, there's this sense of...

 

Tahnee: (00:57:44)

And this is where the chakras make sense to me. I'm not trying to be controversial, but the way in which Dr. Motoyama teaches it, they knit the causal, astral and physical bodies together. So we're in a physical body. There's an energetic body, but it's like bigger than the energetic body. It's not the energy body we feel in this dimension, but it's the part of us that's existing in the astral. So you have a very intimate relationship with that part of yourself. And then there's the causal body, which is the idea of even existing. So it's bigger than even just this kind of multidimensional being. It's kind of the very seed of the very...

 

George: (00:58:26)

I call it-

 

Tahnee: (00:58:27)

You could even-

 

George: (00:58:28)

[crosstalk 00:58:28] attention, it's sub-quantum.

 

Tahnee: (00:58:31)

Yeah, exactly. It is sub-quantum. And that's this idea that we are able to be in this reality because we've been knitted together through these energetic. And one of the reasons I think people want to hijack them is because they are so powerful. Chakra aren't things, chakra are portals. They're like space holes, they're dimensional jumps. So if you can work with your chakras, this is how I've been practising and understand it, if you can work with them in that way, they become ways for you to access these different layers of your reality and reprogram yourself in this three-dimensional reality. So you're able to deprogram anything that maybe brought through ancestral or historical, your hereditary stuff. You're able to reprogram that and move it off and come back to this sense of alignment with your soul.

 

Tahnee: (00:59:23)

And so they say that this is how we connect to that, because we come through this field of dis-remembering where we forget everything when we incarnate. It's about being able to remember, and that's the piece around awareness that I think is so important. It's not that you're suddenly enlightened and happy, and mung beans, and whatever. It's that you're able to exist within these different layers of reality whilst moving through your 3D form, without having a fucking nervous breakdown or going schizophrenic or anything like. You're able to hold it. That's why the morality piece, which I don't really interpret as morality like Christian morality or anything like that, it's more like your own tenets of self-integrity, how do you choose to live. Yoga maps out a few of those, the no harming and all this kind of stuff and how you choose to interpret that as well.

 

Tahnee: (01:00:16)

So "do no harm" seems like a fairly good tenet for people to live by, but there's a huge scope of interpretation there. What does that mean? I think what I've seen in yoga is there's a map, but the map isn't the territory and who's reading the map is very important. Then how they see that map and how they translate it to you is very important.

 

Tahnee: (01:00:35)

You're absolutely right about there's way more energy centres than just the chakras. Tantric Buddhism has 15, off the top of my head. So there's the lower chakras and then the higher chakras. Every creature has chakras as well, so it's not like... I think this idea that humans are superior, it's like humans are in this reality that we've all chosen to incarnate in. Humans have this capacity to be able to play in these worlds. Animals can go into the astral, but they find it very difficult to see causal reality, and plants are astral being, able to be in the astral realm as well. We're not super special. It's just we have a little bit more of a range.

 

George: (01:01:19)

Much bigger range, yeah. Yeah. It's [crosstalk 01:01:22].

 

Tahnee: (01:01:21)

And the way that was explained to me is, it's sort of a daoist idea as well, but also yogic, in that the spine acts as that antenna so that Earth's energy is very grounded and that's why you've got mostly horizontal animals. And you see as animals start to evolve in consciousness, you get the more upright apes and these kinds of things, but typically animals spines go with the Earth and they're connected to the Earth very deeply and they find it very hard to leave Earth. Earth is their home and that's where they're supposed to be.

 

Tahnee: (01:01:52)

Whereas humans, plants, we're reaching for the heavens. And this is this idea in Daoism of being between Heaven and Earth. I don't believe in heaven, again, in the religious sense, but it's this idea of being able to participate in these multidimensional experiences. Then having the power to actually, and this is where my daoist teachings and my daoist learnings come in, but I've also found this in yoga too, you're able to then actually... You don't need to live in a hundred-year lifetime. You can play in any dimension at any time. You start to learn how to control and create reality. This, to me, would be the point. Why would we come here if not to learn how to master this creationist kind of-

 

George: (01:02:37)

Yeah, that's what the challenges provide for us. The challenges force us to dig deep, pull out, even greater wisdom so we can manage reality. Reality management, which I'm teaching tomorrow, over the weekend tomorrow and [crosstalk 01:02:49]-

 

Tahnee: (01:02:49)

Yes. At your course, yes.

 

George: (01:02:50)

... my online version of that. It goes for two days and I call it Reality Management and Closure Facilitator's course. It gets to the point where I was having issues when I was having all these wonderful multidimensional experiences where I'd be in another body, in another dimension and I'd just have a unified centre. That's it, nothing else. Just one energetic centre. Then I'd come back into this space and I'd be pulled apart and fragmented into the chakra system and compartmentalised. I realised that in my journey on Earth, that structure, that system was holding me back because more of me wanted to come in, but I kept getting pulled apart. If you look at chakras and the frequency spectrum that they actually occupy in the universe, universally speaking, and what you can access, it's really quite limiting. So for me having that unity and I don't want to call it singularity because that's a technological term, but that unified field and accessing the unified field of all dimensions in the universe is just the-

 

George: (01:04:03)

And accessing the unified field of all dimensions in the universe is just the one unified field, you see? And so going to or consciously having the experiences with other aspects of my being in other dimensions, even on earth, I travelled to another dimension on earth on several occasions and had meetings with beings, et cetera. I only had one energetic centre, nothing else. And then coming back into this body was like getting ripped apart and very arduous and very laborious. And so, I understand from the point of view of people coming into that initial awareness of having to specialise-

 

Tahnee: (01:04:38)

Totally.

 

George: (01:04:39)

And work with these three main planes that you spoke of that the chakras access. After a while, you get to a point where ... Again, what you just mentioned. You get to the point of where you are working with all the dimensions like that unified field and the universe. You know you're a creator being, and you're entering into reality management. And so, those chakras become a major hindrance. And you've got to transcend them, otherwise, they're just a control system.

 

Tahnee: (01:05:09)

Well, that's exactly Paul's language. He says, "Eventually you have to transcend your chakra system."

 

George: (01:05:13)

Yeah.

 

Tahnee: (01:05:14)

And so, the teaching is like learning to see what's holding you back in those different ... Because that's, I guess, what, for me, has been really interesting is, I kind of I guess have a lot of friends in this whole ... They sort of start from the unified field space, which is the whole. And I think that is a really important kind of conceptual framework to have. That everything is one and we are a singularity. We are a unified field. Whatever we want to be. All of us collectively are, as well. There's this bigger conceptual thing there that I think is really important to know. But then, I think it's taking those steps back.

 

Tahnee: (01:05:58)

And for me, it was like, "If I'm starting to experience these steps, and then I recognise that when I unify them, there's this shift in my capacity." And then, again, from what I understand from Paul, and I haven't personally had this experience yet, is that they dissolve. And that dissolution, sort of hat ability, then, to master time and space. To master ... And this is the stuff, I think yoga, doesn't really talk about this at all in public classes. Which maybe because people don't want to scare anybody off. But it's this idea of, complete self-mastery isn't, "I can hold my breath for 15 minutes." Or, "I can..." Whatever. "Stop my heart." Or, whatever. Those are all interesting things to play with. But it's like, "Can you actually master yourself? Can you master the singularity? And can you actually be in control?"

 

Tahnee: (01:06:49)

And it just sounds to me you are a more advanced yogi than probably most of the yogis out there. And that's what I always kind of joke to [inaudible 01:06:58], that you do Star Wars yoga. But it's, that stuff that you talk about is documented in many of the old yoga texts from ... And I'm talking more like the guys that lived in caves, Himalayan guru kind ofguys. Not the Western teachers or the people that are kind of famous now. And I've been lucky to read some of those accounts and they can manifest at any point on earth at any time. They can go up and speak to galactic beings and come back down and have a chat with some guy in a room.

 

George: (01:07:27)

Yeah.

 

Tahnee: (01:07:28)

They can have chai with someone and be with someone else in another part of the planet at the same time. And that can be verified. They can be buried for hundreds of years and then come back to life. This mastery of the form, mastery of the dimensions, mastery of this kind of ... Because as we know, like quantum physics, this stuff is yoga and Taoism. There's many, many, many books mapping the Taoist ideas with quantum physics. And the Tao is the singularity and it manifests as 10,000 things, according to the Tao. But it's the same thing. And once we recognise that, which I think you have to taste. And I've tasted it. I've tasted it in my practise and I've tasted it in plant medicine where I come into this space of ... With plant medicine, especially, I've been in that other dimension of some place where it's a different world.

 

Tahnee: (01:08:32)

There's geometric shapes instead of trees. And it's very vast and dark. And it's a very different place. I've been there. But I can't get there on my own. And I'm not interested unless I can get there on my own. And that's why I'm not super interested in plant medicine. And again, my teacher influences this thought a lot. But he's like, "You're blasting yourself out into the stratosphere without any control. And you're using your Ching to do it. So when you're coming back down, you're going to be really fucking exhausted." And he's like, "Unless you've built this capacity."

 

Tahnee: (01:09:06)

And that's what I think the yogic Taoist practises like Chi-gung and the breathing practises and the movement practises, understanding how to manipulate your fascia, how your body holds and moves energy. When you know that stuff, when you have that intimacy with yourself, then those experiences are more pleasant and they're more easily controlled. And that plant medicine journey I did in Wilson's, nothing really happened to me except for maybe seeing Tara. But I just sat there. I sat for the whole night and I was just very still. And I was very happy. And I was very quiet. And I was thinking, "This, for me, is a really cool sign that my practise is working because I'm taking this very strong medicine and I'm very clear."

 

George: (01:09:48)

[crosstalk 01:09:48].

 

Tahnee: (01:09:48)

My awareness is very clear.

 

George: (01:09:49)

Yeah.

 

Tahnee: (01:09:50)

And I'm not having to do all the things. And there's this real sense of integrity for me. And this is my journey with it. I don't want to say every ... I know other people have different relationships. But I'm using it more as a touch point to see how I'm progressing, I guess, in my path. And I think that with yoga, I actually think you, of course, you transcend yoga one day. I don't expect to have to meditate. I mean, even I've in my experience of meditating, I've been meditating for a very long time, I can access that place very quickly now. Whereas it used to take me quite a while to drop in.

 

George: (01:10:28)

Yeah.

 

Tahnee: (01:10:28)

If I sat for an hour ...

 

George: (01:10:31)

I feel like what we're progressing into is these states that we would momentarily experience. We then go through a phase where we have more lengthy experiences of them.

 

Tahnee: (01:10:41)

Yeah.

 

George: (01:10:42)

And I was talking to some friends about this the other day. And my group of friends. And we're like, "It feels like we're progressing into that becoming more of our new norm." They talk about the new norm in the COVID cult.

 

Tahnee: (01:10:54)

Yeah.

 

George: (01:10:54)

I call it the COVIDidian cult.

 

Tahnee: (01:10:55)

That's hilarious.

 

George: (01:10:57)

That psychological operation called the COVID cult.

 

Tahnee: (01:11:03)

Yeah.

 

George: (01:11:04)

So there's that. But we've got this new norm that's going on, where we are really progressing into this wonderful state of more constant ... Call it the Zen state, if you want. Or that ability to be at, firstly, a piece with ourselves. And in that conscious communication with all the different aspects of all our different bits, our parts, and have that inner harmonised relationship, which then enables us to have that outer harmonised relationship in a more substantial way.

 

George: (01:11:37)

And the experiences I'm having sitting on my veranda and the dialogue I enter into with the community of trees here and to learn the personalities of the different trees, whose ... One tree over the back there is the ambassador of the mycelia network into this whole community of trees. And even though they're all connected through the roots into the mycelia and the mycelia is all the way through them, as well, they still have this community structure going on.

 

Tahnee: (01:12:04)

Yeah.

 

George: (01:12:05)

And then there's another area over there where there's the main area of communication. And it's interesting, cause I had an Aborigine elder woman come on this property recently. And she just went straight for that communication point. She's going, "There's something really big going on here." And I'm just like, "Yes." And my friends, too.

 

Tahnee: (01:12:22)

But this is in every single wisdom tradition everywhere. And this is a bit ... This is our birthright as fucking humans is to speak to trees. I speak to trees. And I, again, I remember, you turn around to someone and you're like, "Can you not feel this creature?" And people just, they can't. Because it's like we've shut off this part of our biology and our birthright that says, "You are so powerful that everything here can speak to you." And I can see why, of course, of course, governments and things want to shut that down. We were even talking about, "Why don't they teach people budgeting?" I'm like, "Well, cause then they won't be in debt their whole lives." It's like, you can see the manipulation.

 

George: (01:13:14)

Yeah.

 

Tahnee: (01:13:15)

It's like, you can see how much we're being fucking held back. And this is a self responsibility piece. You're not going to learn it from school. You're not going to learn it from a yoga class at a busy yoga studio in the middle of Sydney. It's not going to happen because it's driven by a different motivation. It's driven by commerce. It's by you being a subscriber of their membership every single week. It's driven by ... And it's also based on a capitalist model. My business, the business of yoga, is a fucking nightmare. In my opinion. I ran a donation based yoga studio. Was incredibly abundant. The amount of fear that created for people in my community who were also yoga teachers. I was like, "What's this about? What are we teaching if we're not teaching absolute faith and trust in humans? In each other. In the kind of capacity that we all have to perceive what's in integrity and what isn't?"

 

Tahnee: (01:14:13)

And there was no doubt, for me, that was a success. It was a huge success. And I just, I don't understand. I still get people judge me about that. They're like, "Oh, you have a scarcity mentality or something." I'm like, "No." I was very abundant. I walked out of there with a lot of cash. I made a lot of money in that business. But it wasn't about that for me. It was about showing that if you trust people and if you practise what you fucking preach and you teach and you connect people to what's real inside of them, they walk outside and they connect to that tree that's standing there surrounded by concrete. And they feel that's not okay. People start to, they start to evolve and they start to shift.

 

Tahnee: (01:14:52)

And I think that's the thing, if you look at the indigenous Aboriginal people here, if you look at the indigenous people in every continent, if you go to very early Taoism, the reason they knew which herbs worked is because they paid attention to which herbs worked. They spoke to the plants. They sat down next to the plants and they had a conversation and they're like, "Hey, what are you good for?" The stories are all ... Where did the yoga poses come from? They watched the animals moving and they thought, "Yeah, that looks good." They felt their own energy flowing through their body. And they expressed that energy in a way. And then we turned it into a shape and we put all these alignment rules over it. And we put all this crap over it that then it becomes synthetic. It's not real. It's got nothing to do with the original.

 

Tahnee: (01:15:40)

And I teach yin because it's slow. So you don't have to keep up with a class. Nearly anyone can do it. It's pretty accessible. The whole point of it is to feel your body and your energy. So you'll sit there and you'll feel these ... Ugh. Rearrangements of your tissues. You'll feel the emotion that moves when you hit certain shapes. You'll feel these lines of energy flowing through. You'll come out of a pose and feel like you're made of electricity. That, to me, is teaching people something. It's interesting. And they're connecting to themselves in a different way. And they're going to go away and they're going to have this ... Even if they go back to their life and do whatever. They're still going to have this reference point like I had as a 15 year old that there's something else going on here. There's something that I'm not aware of that's bigger than me. And I think that, to me, is such to gift. And I think like you said before, we hold so much emotion in our fascia.

 

George: (01:16:36)

Yeah.

 

Tahnee: (01:16:36)

We hold so much of our lived experience in our tissues. So when we move, we're able to start to get that circulating. And then when that circulates, we get the opportunity to process. And when we have the opportunity to process, we have the opportunity to move it. And so then we're getting to this kind of capacity to be in this state you're talking about, it was a permanent state. And that's why all the traditions have movement of some kind. The indigenous, if they had trauma, they went walk about. And this is a Taoist practise, as well.

 

Tahnee: (01:17:07)

When you're working on trauma, you move your eyes back and forth like you're erasing something. And they would do that. They would walk and they would look at the trees and they would erase the trauma from their bodies after war and after these kinds of things. And it's like, they knew that you don't heal that shit by drinking or going to therapy or whatever. Those things can help, but you need to go and actually use nature and let her help you. And your relationship with this planet and her beautiful energy, I think, is something we all have the ability to access. It's just people forget. They forget that it's there.

 

George: (01:17:41)

Yeah. And that that relationship is the foundation for our existence here in the first place.

 

Tahnee: (01:17:47)

For everything. I mean, I don't have maybe the best real life mother, but I have her. And I'm held in this deep love and this gift of life. To be made of her substance. And to be made of the substance of the universe, I think is, it's an incredible privilege. And I think we take it for granted. And practise, for me, just reminds me of that. That's where yoga fits into my life. It reminds me not to take it for granted. And it's a touch point or a place where I go to that allows me to process away from ... It's an inner experience. It's very inward. I'm not listening to music very often. It's very much just about what's happening in here. And the listening. A big thing I teach is inner listening.

 

Tahnee: (01:18:33)

Because you're turning your ear away from this outside noise into inside. And so then you're getting to hear what's actually going on. And again, the Taoist stuff is so powerful when you think of all the organs as being supporting, processing all of the emotions and all of the experiences of our lives. They're literally digesting our experience. Right? And so we're kind of able to then look at, all right. Well these organs, energy lines move in this way so we can move our body in this way and support this organ. Or we can take herbs that support that. Or we can kind of ... And again, I think there's sort of an organic and natural way to approach this stuff and a very synthetic way to approach this stuff and ...

 

George: (01:19:16)

Right.

 

Tahnee: (01:19:16)

And that's why we've ... Yeah, well, that's why we're so passionate about tonic herbalism. Because it's so old. It's the oldest style of herbalism that they have. And it comes from a very, a very natural place. It wasn't created by people so much as witnessed and recorded. And I think that's the best we have at this time. And I'd love to do the same. Mason and I are very passionate about, we want to do the same with these plants on this land. And we'd love to be in a place where we have permission from them to share their medicine with the world. Because this country, I mean, I'm so grateful to be born here. And I feel deeply Australian, even though I'm not black or anything. But I just, I'm so deeply connected to this place.

 

George: (01:20:01)

The spirit. Yeah.

 

Tahnee: (01:20:03)

Yeah. I just think Australia has the most incredible energy. And I often feel out of alignment bringing yogic and Taoist practises to this land because I'm like, "Shit. Her medicine is way bigger than these kind of well known traditions." But whether I'm copping out or not, I'm still not in a place of where I've really connected to that. So I'm open to that happening in the future. Talk to me when I'm 60. But I'd love to just keep learning. I think that's [crosstalk 01:20:35]-

 

George: (01:20:36)

I wanted to ask you, given everything that you shared today, which is a lot. Great wisdom, beautiful wisdom, wonderful insights. Being, I have to call you a supermom. Because running a business and being a mom, at the same time, it's so challenging. And just the way you go about it, the way you balance life out. It's just wonderful to see. How are you and your family approaching the challenges of what we are facing in the world today when it comes the different topics of ... I'm not interested in being a Guinea pig in some sort of laboratrol experiment. Even if the Petri dish is on a global scale. I'm just not interested. And how do you feel about that? What's your value system around it? What's your approach? And with everything going on in society now, is there anything that you can share that can help support? Because a lot of people are sliding into despair or anger or resentment. Or frustration is a big one for a lot of people, too, these days. Yeah. What can you share in regards to that?

 

Tahnee: (01:21:53)

Yeah. I think frustration is a really valid response because it's frustrating. Watching it all unfold is just like sometimes just ... I mean, we're in lockdown right now.

 

George: (01:22:06)

You wag your head. You just kind of ...

 

Tahnee: (01:22:07)

The why, there's ...

 

George: (01:22:08)

You go into cognitive dissonance that it don't like ...

 

Tahnee: (01:22:10)

It's like, "What the fuck?" Yeah. And, look. Honestly, on a very personal level, it's [inaudible 01:22:19]. Like it's the game, the illusionary game unfolding again. And I just, it seems too overt for me to even swallow any of it. It feels like such an illusion right now just watching it all. We sit in a very privileged and difficult to have perspective on place. Because where we live is very open. We've been in lockdown for a week and I've worn a mask once and it was to go to a physiotherapy appointment. And I respect and like the woman and she asked me to. And I was happy to. But other than that, I've not worn a mask anywhere.

 

Tahnee: (01:23:06)

I don't feel muzzled by the mask and I think a lot of it's to do with your own interpretation. And I'm quite careful about how I allow myself to be controlled by any narrative, whether it's the conspiracy narrative or the mainstream narrative or anything in between. I don't think it's helpful to disseminate that kind of fear based thinking ever. I just I don't see it as useful. I feel personally very safe and very positive surprisingly about the future. And I think what I'm kind of tuning into or what feels relevant for me is that this is kind of this catalyst, I think, for people to start to really have a think about where they sit in terms of how they receive information, how they digest it, and then what they do with it.

 

Tahnee: (01:24:01)

And I think that needs to go to all sides of politics and all sides of all perspectives. I think we really need to think about where we get our news from, who we're listening to, these sources. I see that what they're doing with the vaccines and everything is just ridiculous. I mean, our child is unvaccinated. I was fortunate to grow up in a family where vaccines weren't a thing. My mom doesn't believe in them. So we didn't use them. And I think it of integrity to give a child a vaccine when they're born. That kind of stuff just seems insane to me. As an actual ...

 

George: (01:24:40)

I concur.

 

Tahnee: (01:24:42)

Yeah. That's just really crazy to me. I think people put a lot of faith in experts. And experts are just other people. And I think we need to be very careful about that. Mason went to a talk by a guy who's an expert in common law. And yes, I think that's an important conversation to be having. And at the same time, I'm like, "It all has to come and be filtered through your own lens and what you are kind of able to grasp and hold and actually then integrate and bring forth into your life." So there's so much, we don't know. There's so many lies being told. It goes, it goes back as far as human history, I'm sure. That the people who are making these rules are, they're being manipulated.

 

Tahnee: (01:25:35)

I believe it goes in so many directions of manipulation and fear and this kind of operating out of a place of control being the only way. And it just, it's such an unnecessary and negative way to be. So for us, we don't participate. If they ask us to wear masks and we don't want to, we won't. And we will leave. If it's about going to a cafe and wearing a mask or not, I just won't go to the cafe. That's fine. I respect other people's right to be afraid. I actually think that's important. If you're feeling fear, then that's fine. I respect people's right to protest and people's right to be angry and people's right to be afraid of what's happening, as well. I think those things are all important parts of the journey. And I think we all have to go through our own process with all of that stuff.

 

Tahnee: (01:26:28)

And what's being hidden this technological shift which is happening. Which I actually think is more ominous than COVID. And I think is what COVID is masking.

 

George: (01:26:42)

Totally.

 

Tahnee: (01:26:42)

This push to ... Yeah. Toward a technological future. And I keep seeing the relentlessness of that and how it's not a train we're going to get off. I can see that it's going to happen. And I think it comes down-

 

George: (01:27:01)

It's the psychological preparation for that assimilation into the technological singularity. This whole-

 

Tahnee: (01:27:07)

Yeah.

 

George: (01:27:08)

Psychological mind control operation that's going on.

 

Tahnee: (01:27:13)

Exactly. And I think you will always have the capacity to be sovereign in that space and to step out of that. I don't believe it's going to come to putting people in pens or anything like that won't participate. I don't think that's going to happen.

 

George: (01:27:26)

I understand. They're experimenting in the collective hive mind thing. And stuff.

 

Tahnee: (01:27:29)

Yeah. And there'll be ... Look it's played out in history before, it's not a new idea. And there's always been out outliers and there's always been people who maintain their own space through these kinds of things. So I definitely think it will change how we participate in culture over time. And I'm okay with that. I'm willing to sacrifice certain things in order to live in what my version of integrity is.

 

George: (01:27:57)

Yeah.

 

Tahnee: (01:27:57)

So I think that's kind of just where I'm sitting at. I would love to be able to provide for others that same safety and comfort. And I'm that's something we are thinking about as a business. How do we contribute to that alternative? And I guess that's something that we're just, it's a constant theme for us and something we're working on.

 

Tahnee: (01:28:18)

I think education is really important. I think people feeling like they have enough information to make informed decisions, whatever it's about. Whether it's, do I upgrade to this next network or do I put this thing in my body? There's a lot there. And I think a lot of us are willing to sell our soul to the devil for convenience. And I think there'll be a lot of people that want to sign up for this technological ... Well, my brother is probably the first person on the list. He's like, "Mate, I can't wait till they can scan my retina and I can go anywhere and they can charge me." I'm just like, "Eh, yeah, yeah, yeah." But it's just a totally different ... It's like he's worshipping the God of technology and I'm-

 

George: (01:28:59)

Yeah. He wants to become a cyborg.

 

Tahnee: (01:29:00)

Not.

 

George: (01:29:00)

Yeah, yeah.

 

Tahnee: (01:29:00)

Yeah.

 

George: (01:29:01)

Yeah. I don't want to be a cyborg. And really, it's really interesting when you look at this psychological operation that most of the surge of ... And I'm not having a go at this. I'm just, it's an interesting observation. That the surge of woman politicians that have come out.

 

Tahnee: (01:29:21)

Oh yeah.

 

George: (01:29:22)

And the way these ... Well, they look like women. But the humanity's not there.

 

Tahnee: (01:29:31)

Yeah.

 

George: (01:29:32)

Because they wouldn't be saying the things they're saying, they wouldn't be making the decisions they're making. So they're very far removed from being natural woman. Yeah?

 

Tahnee: (01:29:41)

Totally.

 

George: (01:29:42)

In touch with totally mother earth, in touch with natural humanity. But they are human looking women beings or entities and they putting the woman face on it. And you think, is it because of this whole thing where they want to provide this care and nurturing facade about safety and looking after people? And the communities and the vaccines are good for you and they're promoting it. And, yeah. It's mostly women speaking. I find that really interesting. Which, tying it in with a technological thing, it really is the face of the borg queen. If you really think about it from that perspective.

 

Tahnee: (01:30:29)

Oh, totally. Yeah.

 

George: (01:30:31)

And it's the borg speak of that singularity and the hive mind mentality that is being created as human consciousness is being assimilated into the technological singularity.

 

Tahnee: (01:30:45)

Yeah. Well, and my understanding of gods ... Again, mine. Is that the more we give them our energy and attention, the more they grow and the more power they have. And if we turn away, they start to ... Just anything you take the electricity away from, you take the power away from, it starts to go out. And so what I'm seeing is collectively this, how many people are on their phones, 24/7 now? I mean, even this format, everything that they're pushing us toward is like, "Get comfortable with being on Zoom all the time. Get comfortable with living your life through your phone. How do you do all your social connectivity? It's via your phone now." This whole kind of push.

 

Tahnee: (01:31:27)

And I'm of a generation that didn't have ... I didn't have a computer til I was 15. And it was like, [inaudible 01:31:33]. It was too hard to do anything on it. It just wasn't worth it. So I didn't grow up with this stuff. But it's like, you look at the kids. Most four year olds can do better on an iPad than I can.

 

George: (01:31:45)

I know.

 

Tahnee: (01:31:45)

And it's like, this is a very interesting god energy of, "Let's all pray and worship this Lord of technology." And it will grow in power. It's a very natural ... Not natural in the sense of natural, but it's a very normal progression of where attention and energy goes. And this building of it. And this is what I mean about, we're willing to make these contracts. We're willing to sign up. When I realised this thing about god, I just, I was like, "Oh my God. God is like collective ego consciousness. It's all of us putting our power into this being." And it just is drinking it up. It's like, "Great. Here I am." It's the centre of the stage, the limelight. Whatever. It's taking all of this power. And this is why we have such powerful religious movements is because people are willing to put their energy and their kind of their power away from themselves and toward this thing.

 

Tahnee: (01:32:45)

And that's what I do like about yoga and its truest sense is it's not about that. It's about, it turns it back to you. And I know, I've had people say that's selfish to not put it out. And I'm like, "No." Because if you believe in this singularity thing. If you think that we're all the same source, code, whatever you want to call it. I don't know the language. Bu for me it's like, we're all from the same place. By turning it back to me, it's going to go out to everyone anyway. It's just, it's going through the most natural portal that I have, which is straight back to this, what you called this sort of singularity place of consciousness.

 

George: (01:33:22)

Yeah.

 

Tahnee: (01:33:23)

Yeah. Just consciousness. But, yeah.

 

George: (01:33:25)

And, also, when we have ourselves balanced and empowered, then ... Because I've transcended that servitude model.

 

Tahnee: (01:33:36)

Yeah.

 

George: (01:33:37)

Rather than service to self, as a service to others, it's still both sides of servitude. And I'm not into servitude anymore because I'm a sovereign being. And so I'm from an empowered place now living a life of contribution. So I can contribute to people, to helping people. And contribute to my community from an empowered place rather than that life of servitude from a disempowered-

 

Tahnee: (01:34:03)

Totally. Yeah. And I think that's a very important distinction. And especially in these areas where there are saviour complexes. In conscious areas where people are like, "Oh, we can save the world." And it's like, "Well, I actually don't believe the world needs saving."

 

George: (01:34:20)

Big mama don't ... Yeah.

 

Tahnee: (01:34:20)

I believe the planet is very, very, very intelligent. And a part of me has a lot of trust that this is all part of this kind of unfolding that is necessary. And that we've all chosen to incarnate in this time. And there's a reason for that. And it's about how we play this particular game that's being kind of rolled out in front of us. And the cool thing about games in this dimension is you don't get the rule book. You don't know how to play. So it's like, I think ... And I often joke to Mas, but I played Super Mario on a Game Boy when I was a kid. It's like-

 

George: (01:34:55)

Oh, yeah. I remember that. My kids used that.

 

Tahnee: (01:34:57)

I'm like, "Yeah, you can get some powers along the way, but then there's the big boss." And you're constantly up against these creatures that you don't know how to defeat them. And it's like, you're constantly just playing this ... And it's an assumed character. It's not really real, but it's like, this is how we play. And if you just give up every time you hit something hard, you're never going to get to the end of the thing. Right? And it's like, I think we've just got to keep remembering that this is another hard time that doesn't have to be a tragic time or a bad time.

 

Tahnee: (01:35:28)

And I'm very, very, very careful about what I consume in terms of media content. I have a very disjointed relationship with social media. Again, I think it's a tricky area because it's like, we're willing to give so much of ourselves to a technological platform, under the guise of giving it to each other. But really it's going through this kind of very big corporate entity that's very deeply connected to what's going on at the moment. And I just, I'm like ... And we're all so happy to put up all of our personal ideas and stories and data and stuff on there.

 

Tahnee: (01:36:03)

... so happy to put up all of our personal ideas and stories and data and stuff on there. I think that's a big challenge of our times and all these devices that we've become really dependent on, so I don't think that's a simple answer.

 

Tahnee: (01:36:14)

My Daoist teacher, [Mon Tochio 01:36:16], he's very much of the opinion that we practise and we stay in ourselves and we build our strengths and our energy and our capacity, and then we'll be able to meet anything with that kind of integrity and grace. I think that's where I see it, is stay as close to my centre as possible, stay as close to nature as possible.

 

Tahnee: (01:36:38)

You mentioned having a child. I think having her naturalness and her ability to just be in any situation in any circumstance in any moment and the amount of joy children bring to situations, I think there's this real purity. I don't want to say innocence because I don't think that innocence so much is just like they're just here and they don't have all of these agendas and things that we've cultivated over our decades of living.

 

Tahnee: (01:37:09)

I find her to be very inspiring in terms of how to be because she's like, "Okay, why are people wearing that thing on their face?" I'm like, "I don't know, babe. Sometimes people do weird things." She's like, "All right, cool. Next." She just takes it all in a stride and it's just not a reality for her to feel fear or to feel discomfort or to feel any of these things because we just keep acting as though our lives are normal. I'm not going to adapt to that stuff permanently. If that becomes our normal, then that's going to create a massive change for us in how we do things. We're willing to... We are, we're willing to give up our business and walk away from all of it if it means that we don't have to play that game, but we're [crosstalk 01:37:56] maybe on-

 

George: (01:37:57)

Been really [crosstalk 01:37:57] playing that recently and I'm like, "If I've got to walk away from all of this, I will," and live on the land and just I will because I have boundaries.

 

Tahnee: (01:38:09)

Exactly. Yes. This is the piece I think people aren't... They're not willing to personally sacrifice something to make a stand for what's true and real. I would advocate for anyone you's listening who's concerned or fearful or in these tumultuous emotional times. I have full empathy for you because I do feel these things too. I'm not saying I'm immune to them. I think I process them probably a bit faster than what I've observed other people doing. It's just I spend a lot of time really coming back to what's important to us, what's true and what's real to us.

 

Tahnee: (01:38:44)

For me, it's always going to be people, plants, nature, animals, this kind of deep relationship that we have and is our birthright. You can't take that from me, so I know where I'm going. I already know where I'm going if it all hits the fan. We're not stupid. We're making sure we know how to survive. I'm also not a dooms day planner. I'm not storing things, but I'm just like, "I know that this land will protect us. I know there are places that are very sacred that I know to go that I'm very connected to that I know will keep me and my family safe." So that's my worst case scenario and then everything else is just managing it.

 

Tahnee: (01:39:27)

Is it worth having a fight with a teenager in a shop about something? Absolutely not. It's not his fault. He's not the one mandating this shit. He's just doing his job, so I'm not going to give him a hard time, but if a policeman tries and stops me, I'm not going to speak to them about... It's different levels of interaction. I mean, I was protesting the 5G towers and the cops would come down and we just made a joke of it. "You're not supposed to be here; it's lockdown," so we'd dance and we're like, "We're exercising," and he's like, "We're not supposed to be with other people." So we'd stand a metre apart and we'd keep dancing and he'd just be like, "All right, whatever. You guys are annoying." They'd just go because there's no point... We're not aggressive. We're not meeting you with any rage. We're not trying to fight you. We're just being silly and you can't really argue with that. You can't argue silly.

 

Tahnee: (01:40:22)

It's just bringing humour and Mason teaches me a lot about that. He's very playful. He keeps it very light and we often talk about the absurdities and they are funny. A lot of this is very funny as well. It's like imagine looking back on this in 20 years. I'm constantly thinking about that. What's going to be the conversation that we're having around this stuff? For us, it's like we just want to be operating out of integrity, remember to find the joy in this beautiful life that we get to live, and then...

 

Tahnee: (01:40:58)

I don't know. I don't know what's going to happen next. I have no answers to that, but I think it's definitely an interesting time and people just need to get really clear on where their values lie and what they're willing to sacrifice I think. So, yeah. It's a very tricky one.

 

George: (01:41:16)

It is and we all chose to come at this time to face it and to be a part [crosstalk 01:41:21]. What is it that we bring to contribute to the challenge that humanity faces right now? What skill sets are we bringing in? What wisdom are we bringing in? What energies are we bringing in?

 

George: (01:41:34)

I feel that's an important question for ask each of us to ask ourselves that, "What am I bringing in? And in my daily life, how am I contributing? Am I making a positive contribution? Am I adding fuel to the fire of negativity and darkness and dystopia? Or am I adding fuel or helping making a contribution to creating a new paradigm in the evolutionary leap of the human race: my personal evolutionary leap and the collective human soul evolutionary leap and Mother Earth's evolution leap." You know?

 

Tahnee: (01:42:12)

Yeah.

 

George: (01:42:12)

That's important to ask ourselves that.

 

Tahnee: (01:42:14)

That was very much my year last year. I spent a lot of time reflecting on that and is it enough? Do I become an activist and use... I've been very much on the front line of a lot of things. I believe strongly in using your voice to speak for what you believe to be true and real. I think there are people that are activists in this lifetime and I don't think I'm one of them. I've really spent a lot of time reflecting on that. I'm more gentle and I want to spend time with people and help them heal and connect through this themselves, this connection to who they really are. I think that's where all of my strengths and all of my power has come from.

 

Tahnee: (01:42:59)

I'm so grateful to the people that taught me that in my early twenties like really learning to be in my body for the first time and learning. I had an eating disorder. I've had lots of interesting interactions with sexuality and various things like that. I've had stuff that probably if you wrote it down... I've done a lot of drugs, not plant medicine, but proper drugs in my time. I've dabbled in a lot of dark stuff and I feel just so light and so clear these days in my life and it's all comes through just-

 

George: (01:43:37)

Yeah you are. You really are. It's amazing to be in your [crosstalk 01:43:38] presence.

 

Tahnee: (01:43:39)

Yeah. Just being more present. A lot of the reason I think people go to those places is because we aren't taught how to be okay with all of the complexity that we feel. A lot of people who are very sensitive and tuned into these things like probably we are... and I know lots of people are. Again, I think it's everyone's birthright to be telepathic. I think it's everyone's birthright to speak to plants and trees. I just don't think those things are... They're not special. A psychic isn't a special-

 

George: (01:44:09)

No, they're normal. We're supposed to be able to fly. We're supposed to be able to bilocate.

 

Tahnee: (01:44:13)

Exactly.

 

George: (01:44:14)

It's [crosstalk 01:44:15]. What's not normal is that we can't do it.

 

Tahnee: (01:44:18)

That's exactly. The reason we can't do it is because of this kind of cultural conditioning that we have and that nobody's ever told us that it's possible. It's like, again, no-one wants to teach you these things because it's not in their best interest. You're not going to learn it at school.

 

Tahnee: (01:44:34)

So I think the that's the piece that I think this... If you get so caught up in the minutia of all the shit that's going on, you forget to actually turn it around and focus on the bigger picture, which is you're here for your own evolution. You're here to be of service in a positive way and a non-self flagellating way to the rest of the people you connect with in your daily life, and boundaries are fine.

 

Tahnee: (01:44:59)

We have a business. We have 25 staff. We have, thousands of people following us and all this kind of stuff. We have to have boundaries. I can't write back to every single person that writes to me. I can't help every single person.

 

George: (01:45:12)

[crosstalk 01:45:12].

 

Tahnee: (01:45:12)

It's not possible. It's a part of the journey of learning. You can't save everyone, but you can impact very greatly yourself and those people that are around you and then you can have a lesser impact on the rest of the world. The piece is just to keep focusing on that and what you can do, what lights you up, what feels really easy. This has been a big journey for me but it's like I don't have to do the that feels hard. I have to do the things that feel very, very easy for me.

 

Tahnee: (01:45:41)

I went through my whole life thinking I had to be some golden child and be perfect at everything and I'm learning I don't need to know the micro details of these things. I just need to know enough. I need to know enough to make a good strategic decision. I don't need to understand every part of every aspect of my business. I need to know enough to stay across it and keep it...

 

Tahnee: (01:46:03)

It's the same with this planet. We don't need to know every single thing that's going on in every moment everywhere, but we've all got roles to play. You have a big role. Mine might not be as such a public role, but it's like I want to make sure that I'm always really living from this place of truth. I don't know about you, but when I'm in flow, it's easy and it's not [crosstalk 01:46:24] pushing shit uphill. Yeah, exactly.

 

George: (01:46:27)

Oh, it's amazing the way it unfolds. I've had a lot of that in my life lately: the ease and the grace. Yeah sure, there's some challenges, but the challenges change. The way I experience my challenges has shifted and the way I experience pain has shifted.

 

Tahnee: (01:46:43)

Yes.

 

George: (01:46:43)

It's like just now it's like I'm so much more willing to embrace the pain and really take it in and do all this wonderful alchemy with it and cultivate, like really sucked the marrow out of every little bit of it. It's really nice. Pain's one of my best friends and it's such a loving relationship that I have with pain now that it's like you guys. Not that you're painful. It's about the quality of the relationship. It's quality, not quantity. Whereas before, there was a lot of pain in my life because I wasn't getting it. You know?

 

Tahnee: (01:47:24)

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

 

George: (01:47:24)

And then, when I start to really listen and then cultivate the wisdom out of the pain, listen to what pain was really trying to tell me because I started to realise that pain's a really good friend. It's always honest and it never lies and only ever turns up in your life when there's something that needs tending to.

 

Tahnee: (01:47:40)

Oh. Yes, preach. Well, this is honestly Yin Yoga. I had all this low back pain going on in my probably... I think I must have been in my early twenties. I was very healthy, very fit, did heaps of yoga. I did heaps of cycling and running and all this stuff and I was like, "Why do I have lower back pain?" Now, I'm 20/20 hindsight, but I've got... I'm in a relationship where I don't feel supported. I've blah, blah, blah; I'm watching all this stuff's going on. People are dying like really my auntie and my...

 

Tahnee: (01:48:13)

I was with people in their death that was big, big deaths, like really quite... One was my auntie died of a heroin overdose and my ex-partner's stepfather died of cancer very, very badly. It was a very unpleasant death and I remember. I'm still quite young. I'm in my early twenties and I'm in pain all the time constantly and I'm going, "Well, what is this?" I'm doing all the things and I'm getting cracked and smacked and I'm into health, so I'm not doing pharmaceuticals. I'm trying to keep it above board and everything natural. And then I start doing Yin Yoga and I'm crying. I'm crying. I'm crying. I'm crying. I'm crying for days at a time and I'm feeling very destabilised. I'm feeling very weird and then it's truth.

 

Tahnee: (01:49:05)

All I'm hearing is truth, truth, truth, like what I need to hear and it's like, "This isn't the right relationship for you. This isn't the right path for you. You need to get out of that job. Don't get into this business deal with this person. It's a bad idea." I'm like, "Who is this person talking to me?" And it's like, "It's me." This part of me that knows more than I know, I suppose, like the limited me and the big me and I just call it Big Tahnee. It's like Big Tahnee knows. I don't always listen to Big Tahnee just to be perfectly transparent.

 

Tahnee: (01:49:37)

One time Big Tahnee told me not to be with some boy and I did anyway, but stuff like that. Not Mason. Before Mason. But I think it's like you start to tune into this... You tune your antenna to what's actually true for you and you just can't... That pain? Gone. Literally overnight after years of doing stuff, and I completely agree with you.

 

Tahnee: (01:50:02)

One of the reasons I think birth was such a great experience for me was because I had done so much Yin and so much practise with pain and suffering, and Yin is hard. You stay in poses for a long time. I've done really long holds up to 20 minutes and stuff.

 

George: (01:50:18)

Wow!

 

Tahnee: (01:50:18)

But most [crosstalk 01:50:18] time. In classes, it's usually three to five. You don't go for ages, but the point is when you're in discomfort in that way, you learn to be with discomfort in a different way. Again, I think this is a really important general life skill is to not push away from discomfort or see discomfort as bad, but actually learn to be in it and examine it and hold it in this really curious way, and look for the lessons in it.

 

Tahnee: (01:50:46)

So COVID right? All right, it's a very big global thing, but personally, I'm feeling... Let's say I'm feeling fear. Well, what is fear for me? How does it manifest? Where is it in my body? What do I do when I feel fear? Do I start projecting? Do I get crankier at people? Do I not go out of the house? So it's like you're starting to learn, through this experience of this emotion and this sensation, how you're actually living and, "Is this the way I want to live?" And then, you can make different choices, but if you don't have that awareness, then you're not actually going to ever make that shift or make that change.

 

Tahnee: (01:51:25)

For me, it's a constant thing. It's like, "Is this in alignment?" I've been in SuperFeast for nearly six years. I'm feeling now it's time for me to step away and that's been a really hard thing for me mentally to come to, but it's such a truth for me in my body. Again, I have an amazing partner where I can speak to it and I can say that it doesn't need to happen right now because I'm not feeling it right now. But I can feel it building for me and these conversations that I'm able to have because I've done all this work being with these uncomfortable feelings, and then not needing to get to a point where...

 

Tahnee: (01:52:02)

I used to have cataclysmic nervous breakdowns. I probably had about five in my life where I'd just push it to the point of just complete exhaustion, emotion despair. Thank God I don't do that to myself anymore. I can see how that was a learned pattern, a learned survival pattern from, again, my family where it wasn't safe to ever feel or express anything, so you just keep moving until you break, and then you get sick and and you break for a bit and then you just pick it up and go again. I was able to spend time with that and understand it more. Now, I can feel like when I'm moving into... and I'm feeling that with SuperFeast. I'm feeling myself moving into a pattern of survival movement instead of joyful movement and I'm like, "Okay, this isn't the right thing for the business at this point because it's growing to the point where it needs a different type of..." It doesn't need a generalist anymore. It needs people that are specific and really good in certain roles.

 

Tahnee: (01:53:03)

Like we just hire a finance manager and it's like, "Oh my gosh, someone who just knows numbers." I don't have to then stress myself trying to understand micro accounting details. This person can do that for me and I'm starting to see that my role becomes more in education, and supporting, and nurturing the team, and inspiring, and continuing to explore my curiosity, which drives the passion of the business. It's like you can feel this natural journey that it's on. I want to have more babies and I want to be... Our daughter's been an incredible... She's been amazing through this whole time of us working and we've had so much [crosstalk 01:53:41].

 

George: (01:53:42)

She really has, hasn't she? Yeah.

 

Tahnee: (01:53:44)

I can feel her energy is so strong. She was the most amazing baby. She came to me before we conceived at Tanya's property, which we've both spent time on. She flooded down into my belly and I was like, " Am I pregnant?" I wasn't, but I had this little bird landed in me. And then Mason and I, when we conceived her, we had a shared experience again of a bird. And then, when she was in my womb, one night I went out in again at Tanya's property and looked up at the stars and just burst into tears. I was just like, "There's just this absolute beauty in the world." She's someone that sees beauty. You know?

 

George: (01:54:21)

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

 

Tahnee: (01:54:22)

I could feel that in her and then she came and she told me her name and we had all this beautiful connection. She's just a very present child being and she's very strong. She has really good energetic boundaries. She's taught me a lot about that sort of stuff. She didn't want me doing energy work when I was pregnant. She was very clear on that and there's all this really interesting stuff that's come up with her and I can feel my job is to protect that energetic container of our family.

 

Tahnee: (01:54:51)

If we're adding another soul to that, that job becomes bigger. It's not something I can walk away from as easily as I can with Aiya. I feel this next baby isn't going to be like her and I can just feel different stuff happening. To working moms, I'm not trying to say, "You can't do it," because I know lots of women that thrive in that, but I'm just... My experience is there was a yes to SuperFeast for a very long time and it's moving more into a... still a yes, but I'm participating in a different way.

 

George: (01:55:26)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

 

Tahnee: (01:55:26)

Yeah. And I feel this-

 

George: (01:55:27)

[crosstalk 01:55:27] bit of a step back from your traditional roles and just having more of a background role?

 

Tahnee: (01:55:33)

Yeah. And just, I think I definitely see my gift's in seeing. I have this ability to see and I see through people and their words and I see what they are. I've found in mentoring staff, reflecting what I see to them. And then, if they're willing, if they're willing to see what I see and they feel this truth when I speak it, then it's like being able to help them grow into that next best version of themselves. I find that really a really beautiful thing that I can contribute to our team. It's not really role-specific. It's just more like seeing them and seeing where they shine. I think that's one of the privileges of having a business is you get to bring people in and really nurture them and really create a...

 

Tahnee: (01:56:25)

Like we often talk about community, right? It's like, "Well, what is that?" It's common unity. It's this sense that we're are all working for our own highest self and this common goal. I think that's been, for me, the difference between our business and businesses I've worked in the past where you're just another employee. Our staff are very much valued and they are treated as co-creators of the business, and especially in this current stage where we're like we actually have the resources and the time to give them more of an ability to co-create with us. It just feels very powerful to act as a mentor and a guide for them as opposed to a boss or even managing a specific function in the business, so I'm really enjoying that transition as well. And-

 

George: (01:57:15)

[crosstalk 01:57:15].

 

Tahnee: (01:57:15)

Yeah, it's an interesting time; always is.

 

George: (01:57:20)

Yeah. No, fantastic.

 

Tahnee: (01:57:21)

And staying really connected to the herbs. I think we have such beautiful allies-

 

George: (01:57:25)

You really do. You've also recently launched into the US and that was a big step. A couple of new products have come out, product lines have come out too. [crosstalk 01:57:37] has come out recently.

 

Tahnee: (01:57:36)

Yes, [Mr. Mate 01:57:38].

 

George: (01:57:38)

Yeah?

 

Tahnee: (01:57:42)

Yeah. I see Mason is such a creator. Honestly, he's the ultimate creator and he's got impeccable timing and he's very connected to his mission. I actually think me being in the business, I've held the reins in a really tight way to get us to this place where we've got a lot of stability and foundation now that it's almost time for him to play, and it's time for him to go back into that creator role.

 

Tahnee: (01:58:12)

It's interesting as we were talking about this the other day and it's like... I don't like to use the feminine/masculine stuff too much because I do think we embody all of that, but I feel that I have this capacity to nurture and then he has this capacity to expand and there's this real... I feel like the business has gone through a real nurturing phase and now it needs him in this role as an expansion phase. It's a dance we've done a few times in SuperFeast, but I can feel it again coming and I've had-

 

George: (01:58:42)

It's fascinating that you should say that because I've got that shift happening in my business model as well and my business [crosstalk 01:58:48] my expressions and my creative processes. Yeah, so it must be some sort of cosmic wave that we're surfing.

 

Tahnee: (01:58:55)

Yeah. Am interesting we're talking about it because one of the first times Mason and I made love, I had this... we actually both had it I think.. this vision of I was on a planet and I was weaving him and he was out in the cosmos as Mason is bringing in this thread and I was weaving it together. I've used that metaphor a few times in our business because it feels like that sometimes, like he goes out and creates the vision and the dream and then I make it manifest. I think we've hit this really nice flow of manifestation. Now it's the next layer of dreaming and vision. I think that's probably what you're speaking to too. Business just goes through so many changes I find. I mean, business to me is such a fascinating area and I-

 

George: (01:59:48)

Oh, it's totally evolving its evolution and just like we are as individual creator beings too. The businesses that you and Mason have created and the business that I've created, they're not normal businesses. They're actually entities with different personalities. They really do who want to grow and they really do want to evolve. They're not happy about being stagnant and they're not your normal business because we're not normal people, and they're an extension of us as individuals and collectively, jointfully. So, I'm excited about... I love GEM Superfoods. I love SuperFeast. I love [I'm Infinite 02:00:25] Proprietary Limited. You know?

 

Tahnee: (02:00:27)

Yeah.

 

George: (02:00:29)

We're all good mates hanging out together and I've got some ideas actually I want to bounce off of you. So after we finish this recording, I've got one specific idea I want to bounce off you, so we'll do that off air and other ideas down the track as well. So yeah, evaluating.

 

George: (02:00:48)

Tahns, I'm feeling like we're winding up and I just want to really think because I know too that you've got a tight schedule and you've been sharing so much of your time with us here today. I really want you to know how grateful I am, truly.

 

Tahnee: (02:01:01)

Oh, same [inaudible 02:01:02]. What a privilege to spend some time talking to you.

 

George: (02:01:06)

Oh, you're so welcome, and for us to sit down [crosstalk 02:01:07].

 

Tahnee: (02:01:08)

You've been very patient with my family.

 

George: (02:01:09)

Ah, that's [crosstalk 02:01:11].

 

Tahnee: (02:01:10)

We had our first ever guest room we were like, "What is this?"

 

George: (02:01:15)

Yeah. Yeah. The green gremlin came out to play, hey?

 

Tahnee: (02:01:18)

Yeah. Just in Aiya thankfully, not in us. But yeah, definitely not something I hope she goes through again anytime soon.

 

George: (02:01:26)

No projectile vomiting is not fun when they're young. Well, it's not fun [crosstalk 02:01:32] at any age really.

 

Tahnee: (02:01:33)

No. But no, thank you [crosstalk 02:01:36]-

 

George: (02:01:36)

Yeah, sorry?

 

Tahnee: (02:01:39)

... really grateful for the privilege. I was just saying I'm very grateful for the privilege and I hope your listeners get something out of this conversation.

 

George: (02:01:43)

Oh, totally. I've been sitting here and just in awe of the wisdom you've been sharing. I've thoroughly enjoyed listening and learning from you today. I also want to say you've got your website as well besides superfeast.com. Is it.com or.com.au for Superfeast?

 

Tahnee: (02:02:04)

The Australian SuperFeast is .com.au. We do have the American now, so for either side of the Pacific.

 

George: (02:02:11)

This is going international, so yeah, if you can [crosstalk 02:02:14] everyone know that. But for you, personally, it's your website. What services do you offer, et cetera, et cetera?

 

Tahnee: (02:02:24)

I'm on tahneetaylor.com, so my name is TA- H-N-E-E. It's not easy to spell; been spelling it my whole life. Interestingly, it's a Maori name, which is the god of trees and nature and I feel an affinity with that name.

 

George: (02:02:41)

I can totally see that in you. Yeah.

 

Tahnee: (02:02:43)

It's a masculine name, which is interesting too because I can feel that energy in me as well. I mean, most of what I offer at the moment is through SuperFeast. I feel like my energy and attention has been there, but I do have some online classes and offerings in that regard are around Yin Yoga and I have some free sequences and things people can download.

 

Tahnee: (02:03:08)

I hope to be doing some more stuff soon online. I really resisted the online world for yoga because I feel like it's... For me, as a teacher, touching people and being in that space with other people is one of the things I've love about teaching, and you hear a lot through touch that you don't hear through words. But I have had actually a very profound experience going online a little bit during COVID. I've found I feel a very deep connection through this medium, which was a big surprise for me. Honestly, it was a change in my perspective, so I will be doing some more online stuff. Also, I am on social media on Instagram @tahneeyoga, but I'm not very active on there. So, if you want to go and check it out, there's some archival content on there. You can see our cute little girl, Aiya Papaya.

 

George: (02:04:10)

Aiya Papaya, yeah.

 

Tahnee: (02:04:11)

She's very cute. But yeah, no, I'm really happy just to be of contribution. If anyone wants to write to me, if they have questions or anything, you can just email me through my site and I'm always happy to have a chat.

 

George: (02:04:21)

Aw, thank you. That's lovely. Well, Tahnee, thanks. Again, my heart to yours and to the family.

 

Tahnee: (02:04:28)

Thank you [crosstalk 02:04:28].

 

George: (02:04:28)

Love you a lot and [crosstalk 02:04:28].

 

Tahnee: (02:04:28)

Love you too.

 

George: (02:04:32)

[crosstalk 02:04:32] catching up and next time I'm down your way, we'll definitely have a good catch up or next time you guys come up the sunny coast.

 

Tahnee: (02:04:44)

Yeah. We're going to bring our camper trailer and come and-

 

George: (02:04:45)

That's where I get [crosstalk 02:04:45].

 

Tahnee: (02:04:45)

... catch ourselves [crosstalk 02:04:45].

 

George: (02:04:45)

... in the space out there.

 

Tahnee: (02:04:45)

Yep. We're very keen. We're planning dates at the moment, so we'll let you know.

 

George: (02:04:47)

Excellent. Excellent.

 

Tahnee: (02:04:47)

Oh, thank you so much for the privilege.

 

George: (02:04:47)

Thank you too, Tahns. All right. See you mate.

 

Tahnee: (02:04:55)

Ciao, Super Woo Radio fans.

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